Ozempic Face, Fillers and Peel Safety Explained
I was going to say, like, if there are certain areas where it has really deflated, the adipofilin can help to plump up adipose tissue. Not every kind of fat tissue, just adipose tissue. And if you look at the Adipofilin page on the website, it shows a diagram of the face and the exact areas where the adipose tissue is. So when you're applying the Adipofilin, it can help to plump those areas. And I'm not saying that's going to look like you had an injection on your face, but it really does help to plump those areas. It does expand the fat. So if you've been doing the GLP-1, you don't have to be stuck with, like, Ozempic face or…
And start them right away. Don't wait until the skin is...
Do it as you're going.
Yeah. Yeah.
I feel like that is good.
Right.
Like, if you're just getting on your prescription...
There we go. ..
You know, and you're not currently using all the good stuff
Oh my gosh
Get started now.
So if you are just starting a GLP-1...
You know, do two journeys at once.
...this is the video for you.
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh, you're going to take a GLP-1? I should watch this first.
You have to.
You have to do your skincare.
All right. We are going to go through a bunch of Q&As that we have… We've asked you guys…
We've been collecting them, yeah.
...to, you know, send us your questions, and we have quite a few. A big one we are going to start with is that a lot of people out there are on GLP-1s right now.
Yes.
So they're experiencing, you know, weight loss, bravo, and…
And quote, unquote.
And unquote, they call it the Ozempic face.
Yeah.
Or, you know, they're experiencing some really great things, but then they feel that maybe they look a little older than maybe what they thought they looked like before.
Yes.
Because let's face it, if your face is nice and plump, it's going to kind of smooth out some things.
Fills in those lines a little bit, right?
Yeah.
Yeah. So it's like a balloon.
Somebody that has more weight.
When it deflates, it kind of doesn't look as…
Everything kind of falls. ..
Good as you thought.
And I know that they're trying to blame the drug, like the GLP-1s, you know, Ozempic and Zepbound and all that kind of stuff. But they're not at fault. They're not… There's nothing specific in that drug that's causing your face to fall.
Absolutely not.
So please don't worry about that. Take your drugs as prescribed to keep you healthy and have a healthy body and, you know, all that kind of stuff. That's all good. But what does happen is, yeah, just like anybody would have lost a large amount of weight- anywhere from 20 pounds, 50 pounds, 100 pounds- when you're losing that kind of weight, yeah, your skin falls because you don't have all that fat, you know, building it up as that goes away, goes away, goes away. Now your skin is kind of, you know, flaccid.
A little dry-looking.
Yeah. And there are a couple of ways to tighten that up on the body. And I'll say, like, what is that one doctor I used to love, that I used to follow? He worked with a lot of people that had diabetes and things like that. And they would use fasting to... And he said that like none of the people that he had had, Dr. Jason Fung, none of the people that he had actually had to go in and have surgery to have excess skin removed. But how they dealt with it was with fasting. And I'm not talking about, like, intermittent fasting and eating one meal a day. I'm talking like fasting for like a week or two at a time. But what happens when you're fasting is that your body starts to eat up, use the damaged old tissues as its source of energy, right? First, it burns up the fat when you're fasting because you switch to burning fat. It starts eating up all that fat, which is what you want. But it does the same thing with, like, the excess skin tissue and stuff. So excess hanging skin on the body and on the face can really be minimized and tightened up with fasting.
Now, not everybody wants to do fasting, obviously. So, like, what else can we do when the skin is kind of like hanging? Now, I think number one: give it some time. You know, just like if you think about when somebody's pregnant, right? It took you like nine… We always talk about how it takes you nine months to get here, your belly to stretch out, if you think about it. And then it takes, we say, like at least another nine months to come down again for your body to be back to where it was prior. That's a lot of stretching to go back.
And then you look like maybe you never had a child before. Your skin will go back in. So don't be too panicky because you lost this weight quickly and then your skin hasn't caught up yet. Like, if it took a year to lose that, I would give yourself like a whole other year to just let things tighten up and go back, you know, where it was. Now, of course, obviously there are things you can do to help it. I would suggest, you know, needling, whether we're talking about the face or the body, stimulating collagen and elastin and tightening the skin as much as we can.
Things like TCA can also be done on the face and on the body. I think, too, like copper, you know, we have like the crepey skin escape. I think that is excellent because that's a tissue remodeler, right? So the tissue that's all broken down and old and loose, it helps that to regenerate. We have to flush out the damaged tissue and re-stimulate new growth. That's going to be better-quality skin than the skin that was there prior. So I think those are big keys to look at.
Yeah. Elasticity is a big thing. So maybe like citrus stem, citrus stem, right? Progenyl…
Skin, etc.; those kinds of things can be used on the face. Adipofilin. I was going to say, like if there are certain areas where it has really deflated, the adipofilin can help to plump up adipose tissue. Not every kind of fat tissue, just adipose tissue. And if you look on the website, on the adipofilin page, it shows a diagram of the face and the exact areas where the adipose tissue is. So when you're applying the adipofilin, it can help to plump those areas. And I'm not saying that's going to look like you had an injection on your face, but it really does help to plump those areas. It does expand the fat. Also, Sculptra. Think of Sculptra as like sculpting with the hyaluronic acid injections and things like that.
Cool.
So that would be really good for the face areas. I think you could either put it on, you know, just dab it on by itself or mix it into your favorite serums.
Yeah. I had a customer ask about the adipofil. She said certain parts of her face were, you know, losing fat, but she didn't want it to plump up areas.
Right. And it won't.
And I said, no, no. It's only going to work on those adipose tissues.
So that's all.
Fear not. It's not going to plump up areas that you don't want plumped.
Exactly. You can be very precise with where you put it if you want.
For sure.
And I don't think you'll have any worries about that. If you have too much hollowing, you're going to have to do something a little bit more substantial.
Sure.
I generally recommend injections, PRP, or PRF. And that's very safe because they actually draw your own blood.
That's right.
They draw your own blood, and they spin it in a centrifuge, take out, you know, all your growth factors and all that kind of stuff. And then they'll mix it with a little thickening agent of some sort. I can't remember what she puts in there. And then they'll just, you know, use a cannula and kind of fill in the area. And that is just all your growth factors, your own personal growth factors, in the areas that you want to plump up more. And I will say it worked well for me. I was having, like, a lot of the little hollows under there. And I did a couple of series, I think a series, maybe like three of them. I think I probably did it maybe like six times or so. And I saw huge changes, and I feel comfortable telling people to do that.
I don't want you to go and get, like, filler, filler, like hyaluronic acid type fillers because those just, like, how we love hyaluronic because it pulls moisture to your skin and keeps it moist. But when you're injecting a glob of that, it's going to continue pulling moisture from your body. And then it may look perfect on day one or week one, but a few weeks later, all of a sudden, now it's lifted and raised because it's filling. And then they've got to, like, break it down with a hyaluronidase. I forgot what the solution is.
There's something that can break that down.
That breaks it down. It's just not a good thing. So use, like, your own growth factors with the PRP or PRF. I think that's probably the safest thing to do if you're getting a little too hollow.
Yeah.
I think that's, you know.
What about the body? What if somebody is experiencing some, you know, loss of elasticity? I've heard a lot.
They lost a lot of the knees.
Thighs. The knees
…the thighs area, you know, that area.
I mean, and that just.
Arms too. This area is, you know, where we get a lot of…
Yeah. And I've seen, you know, maybe a couple of different tools out there, you know, stimulation tools and, like, some lasers and some LED and some microcurrent things that you can do at home.
Yeah.
I think those are probably a little bit beneficial. Obviously, the copper we were talking about, like the Crepeo Skin Scape or the super cop two X. I think those are great options. But you know, if you lost, you know, a hundred pounds, 150, 200 pounds, sometimes more, you know, sometimes you just have to come to the terms that you're going to have excess skin. If you've got just a lot of excess skin, none of these topicals are going to take care of that. Always want to be very realistic with what I'm suggesting.
That's true.
We might be able to improve it a bit. You might lose an inch or something like that, but it's not going to just tighten up and be like it was when you were 12 years old. You may need that surgery.
And the older you are, the harder it is for your skin to bounce back. So if there's somebody who loses a hundred pounds and they're in their thirties or forties versus somebody in their fifties, chances are that 20- or 30-year-old skin is going to bounce back much quicker than your skin.
That's very important to think about. And I think a lot of people who are using the GLP-1s are probably a little bit older, you know, forties, fifties, sixties. And yeah, that's when you're going to run into the issue. But you know, as long as you are healthy and, you know, with those GLP-1s, now you've lost that weight. You are feeling good.
Sure.
You might just have to have that surgically removed.
Yeah.
You're going to be stuck with a scar, but you know, there are things we can do for scars.
Very true.
To minimize the scars, use, like, the Emu oil while it's healing; use exosomes; use PDRN. And when it's all sealed, and the deal is done, then you can start using copper peptides and things like that to help minimize and even smooth the scars as much as humanly possible.
Absolutely.
And I think, you know, one of those options.
What about our soleose mask?
I think that could be used because it stimulates ATP in the skin and makes your skin function better.
Sure.
And I don't know. I know it's shown that it can help you lose fat and stuff, but that's not true; it can't help you lose fat.
Right.
It's not the LED's function, but it can definitely improve the skin itself.
The elasticity a little bit.
Yeah. I think it can help with the skin itself. You know, if you're talking about, you know, you could take our mask or the neck mask, and you know, wrap it around your arm. I'm actually…
Good idea.
I'm actually thinking about getting, like, a longer one too that, you know, you can, you know, use as a pad or, you know, wrap around and do little things. I'm thinking about having one of those too.
Yeah, I've seen a couple of those in your office that we were playing around with one day.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think that would be great for the body.
I think so too.
You can, like, lay that on your belly or around your butt and your thighs.
There's so much you can do with it. Your arms.
I've even seen some, you know, like at the tanning salon, like back in the old days when you'd go and you'd shop the thing. I've seen some now that are all red light.
I have one.
And things.
Oh
I have one.
You have one. Personally, of course, you have one.
My only problem is it's, it's just so big, and so it takes up so much room.
Yeah.
Like, anytime that I even think to use it, like my husband's already sleeping, and it makes a disco show basically in the room. So I was like, I can't do that. You know, blinking red lights, and it's almost like a little sleeping bag.
Right.
So I like the concept. There's like, it's on the bottom, it's on the top, but then you get a plug from the top, a plug from the bottom, turn this one on, do this control, do this control. It's kind of a pain in the butt. But yeah, if you have a goal, though, see me, I'm just kind of willy-nilly with things. If I had that goal and I really, really wanted to target that, I would be sitting in that every day.
Well, I think some of these tanning salons are probably not doing as well because, you know, tanning is not at the top of people's, you know, list anymore. So a lot of them are doing, like, red light therapy, you know, different lights. I've seen that. So I was like, Oh, that's interesting.
I remember when that was first coming out, and we had the medical spa. I remember talking to one of the estheticians about, I'm thinking, who wants to lie in a bed that's just red lights. What's that going to do?
Yeah.
Ha ha.
Well, my daughter was an all-star cheerleader, and they had a trainer there who believed 100% in light therapy. So, and I know, like, she would bring things to help, you know, the athletes and such.
I sprained my ankle and wrapped it around there and anything to, like, stimulate that healing power.
I agree.
And yeah, I feel like, you know, again, do whatever you can. So yeah. Lights, needling, peels, using the proper topicals, copper peptide, those are all great things. And all the things that we've talked about, you know, with the peptides and all that kind of stuff to help, you know, tighten that loose skin.
Yeah.
So if you've been doing the GLP-1s, you don't have to be stuck with, like, Ozempic or...
And start them right away. Don't wait until the skin is healing.
Do it as you're going.
Yeah.
Yeah. I feel like that's, that's, that is good.
Right.
Like if you're just getting on your prescription.
There we go.
You know, and you're not currently using all the good stuff.
Oh my gosh.
Get started now.
So if you are just starting a GLP-1.
You know, do two journeys at once.
This is the video for you.
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh, you're going to take a GLP-1? Watch this first.
You have to.
You have to do your skincare.
For sure. We want you to look and feel as beautiful as you look.
Yes.
Yeah. Absolutely.
So I have a couple of questions that we wanted to answer. And the first one was about pre-treating for in-office procedures, right? So a lot of times when you go to get a procedure, whether it's a laser treatment or maybe you're going to get a chemical peel or whatever you're getting done, sometimes they're going to tell you to pre-treat, and sometimes they're not.
Yeah. That's a little scary when they don't tell you to pre-treat, especially if you have certain skin tones.
Yeah. And people sometimes, you know, think we're a little bit crazy because we're like, no, you have to pre-treat before any of these peels you do. We want your skin to be in a healthy, regenerative state.
Yes.
You know, so pre-treating is as simple as just, you know, three things, right? Use an acid. I don't care if it's a cleanser, toner, serum, whatever you want. An acid that helps your skin turn over faster. Remove that dead skin. So you've got a nice, even surface, just like sanding your wall before you paint it.
Got it.
You want a nice surface that everything's going to penetrate evenly. I also want you to use a melanin inhibitor because people can get PIH, which is like the little darker marks. If something strong is applied to the skin, it causes an inflammatory response, and then you can be stuck with little dark marks. So if you're using a melanin inhibitor, it cuts that way, way down.
Right.
If you have darker skin, you're more prone to PIH. So you need that inhibitor. If you have marks already on your face, you need that inhibitor. So I think that's like a given. And then the other one is like a retinoid. And we do have a retinoid in our Fade Bright, which is our melanin inhibitor. But I feel like you really could use more of a retinoid. We have our Fusion A, or if you're on Tretinoin or whatever you're doing, I think that's really important. So if you go in and you want to get a procedure done and they're not telling you, or at least asking what you're using, because, you know, a lot of times they ask and, oh, yeah, you're on a prescription of this and a prescription of that. Maybe you've just filled in the blanks that they needed. You are prepped. Maybe you are prepped. So probably a lot of people are prepped, but I guarantee you a lot of people walking in that door are not prepped.
Very true.
And if they're not telling you that, oh, we need to get you doing this first for, you know, a month and then let's schedule you to come back after that. That's a little bit scary that they're not concerned enough about how your response is going to be, because if you're not prepped properly, your results aren't going to be as good.
Yeah. You could be causing some PIH and things like that that you didn't even you weren't even battling before you came in there. And that's the worst-case scenario.
Yeah. So that's important. Make sure you're prepping no matter what you're doing.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. No matter what you're doing, it's important.
And especially if you have an olive skin tone or darker, if you're going in for any type of laser, peel, anything like that.
Yeah. And you know, that leads me right to the next question, because the next question is about that. It's an offshoot of that. They're talking about having lighter skin for their heritage. Do they still need to prep like they have dark skin?
Yes.
That's all about pre-treating. And you know, my answer is yes, you know, a hundred times, if you are Hispanic and even if you have Fitzpatrick skin type one, but your family is Hispanic, you have to treat your skin. You have to follow your heritage, I think, more than the actual Fitzpatrick number that you fall on that scale. Like, it doesn't matter how light it is because, like, my skin, my skin, I have very light skin. I'm Italian. I just, I don't have that with my family, but my son, now he has lighter skin, but he tans very, very well. And if he gets a mark, if he has, like, a bug bite or a scratch or anything, he's got a brown mark. And that's kind of like a test that I've kind of come up with over the years that I like people to think about when they want to know, like, am I at risk for PIH?
So if you've had a wound or an inflammatory response, your skin is going to heal during that healing process. It could turn a color. So, like, let's say if you had a pimple or a bug bite, does your bump or spot, what's left over, is it pink or is it brown? Because if it's pink, like me, I will get a pink mark, and I'm not prone to PIH. It just skipped me entirely. There's no melanin in me. But if you have a brown mark
then you know
even if you have light skin, you are very prone to PIH, and it's exceptionally important.
So you should absolutely…
100% treat your skin like you have darker skin. Pretend you have Fitzpatrick 4, or if you know that you are, I would say, Asian, especially Indian, black skin, of course, Hispanic. I mean, I think those right there, and they're just that mid-tone. Those are so, so, so prone to getting PIH, and that's what we tell everybody. Just everybody prep. Everybody uses a melanin inhibitor, and we're just going to, like, drop the rate of anything happening way, way down.
Greatly, greatly, greatly reduces the risk of that spike in pigment happening when your skin kind of goes into that shock.
Yes. So that's that question. Let's see what else we had. Here's another one. “So I did peels before. Can I start at a TCA 20?” So I think that was your- I saw that one.
I had an email come through last week from a customer with light brown skin, and she jumped into a TCA 20 peel and had some serious PIH starting. You know, her skin right away was just big spots right here. And I was like, well, what made you decide to start with TCA 20? That is against all of our recommendations.
Yeah.
Her response was, "In the past, I have had peels done at a medical spa."
Okay.
Okay. And then my response back to her was, well, was that within the last month or three, or no, it was the previous March.
So that was a year ago.
Over a year ago. So when you have that downtime, your skin normalizes again, and you have to start that acclimation process again.
Yeah.
You know…
You can't just jump back into something super strong. Your skin is not in the same state anymore. What? Your skin is always changing.
Yeah.
It is always changing. If you're doing a peel one month to the next or one week to the next, you know how your skin's going to react. You know, you can work up and up and up. But if it's been months, if it's been like four or five months, something like that, I feel like you need to go right back to step one, make sure you've prepped properly for your four weeks. You're using an acid, using a melanin inhibitor, using a retinoid. Your skin is prepped.
Yeah.
Then stop that retinoid at least before you put your peel on, and use a lower percentage. If it's TCA and you were doing 20, I would bump down to the 13 for sure. Maybe even the seven if you started there.
Right.
Work your way up. Start with one to two layers again, then add another layer every month. And you know, if you've got to, like, two, three layers and you're like, no, my skin's behaving like it was, okay, maybe you can do four or five layers. Work your way up a little bit more quickly because you know, and your skin just got right back in. But don't ever just start at, like, super high again.
And unfortunately…
it's just not safe.
This particular customer did not use a melanin inhibitor before, so she didn't follow a lot of the platinum skincare precautions and protocols that we, you know, scream from the rooftops and put in your peel manuals and send videos and emails.
Reread that peel manual before you do another peel.
Yeah. Yes. So now, you know, then we had to kind of shift gears, and now we're on, you know, recon mode because now we're trying to fix things with, you know, now we have to do the Fade Bright and we have to, you know, keep on that and then maybe do some lactic down the road. You know, it was just too much, too quick.
Yep.
And it was a pretty large area on her cheek. So I'm really hoping we'll stay in contact and she can, you know, follow the protocol and fade that.
And keep in mind, like, let's say if you're only prepping for four weeks, when you, when you prep, and you have, like, better results and you're not running into issues like that, that's fine. It's only four weeks. If you end up with PIH, we're talking about it being six to eight months, maybe longer, before that PIH is resolved.
Yeah.
So that is a much, much longer process. That prep is nothing.
Yeah.
And even if, even if you could only afford to prep with one item, make it Fade Bright.
Yes.
Or, or Hydroquinone.
Yeah, absolutely.
Make it that ingredient because we want to avoid that at all costs.
Yeah.
I know I got one more here.
Okay.
This one had to do with the soleus mask. So we're talking about LED and lasers.
Yes.
And what they wanted to know is two things: what if you have darker skin, can you still use the mask? And the same thing will be like with melasma. So these are the two people who could have a reaction when using something so strong, right? Like, if you think about it, you know, the wavelengths have numbers, you know, so there's a 400 and something up to 800, 1000, so that's like how deep it's going in. So the higher the number, the deeper it goes into the skin. So when you've got people with darker skin, their triggers, their melanocytes, and all that kind of stuff, I guess it's in the upper layers. So when you're doing these shallower depths, like the blue, that's the worst one, right?
Yeah.
Cause it hits the top layers, and that's what's going to cause the most problems, most hyperpigmentation problems. If you're going to get PIH from LED and laser masks, you definitely need to use deeper-penetrating light. So the red and the infrared are going to be the safest to use for darker skin, for melasma skin. And a couple of other things to keep in mind. So we definitely want the deeper layers; we want to bypass all that reactive area. We want to just get the light that is penetrating deep into the skin, and that's good anyway, because that's where all the change is happening.
Right
Usually the surface stuff is to handle, you know, bacteria and things like that. So, so you want that depth. So you want to use modes that are just the red infrared. You don't want to use that color variety where it's going to cycle through.
Right.
You want to stay with the red modes.
Got it.
And then with melasma, you know, that can also be triggered by things like that, and it can be triggered by heat. So we have these 104 degrees where it starts to trigger the melasma response. So you want to do shorter times. So whether you have dark skin or melasma skin, you want to do shorter times with the lights because it's not that the lights are hot- they're not hot- but just for safety, like if our mask goes from 10 minutes to 30 minutes, you're going to be doing 10-minute sessions. If you have Fitzpatrick skin type I or II, or you're prone to melasma or PIH for whatever reason, you need shorter sessions, and you need to use deeper wavelengths. So we're talking about the 800s and things like that. Red, infrared, and just to be safe, because we don't want you to create problems.
And it is a question. That's why, you know, I thought it was an important one to talk about right now, because it is a common question that people have: " Well, I have melasma, or I have this skin color. Is it okay that I use this mask? It's like, well, yes, absolutely it is. But you want to make sure that you're using it really on the weakest spectrum of what that mask is; it has the possibilities it can do so much more, but you need to use it more gently.
Yes.
Right. Because we don't want to make your marks darker. And if for some reason you do start to see something, well, back off.
Back off. Every other day is a great place to start.
Every other day. There's no need to use the mask every day, unless, like, you're healing from something.
That's different.
You did a peel. Suppose you want to use your LED every day; that's fine. Every other day is fine. Three to four times a week is the maximum because there's a point where you do too much and you're not going to get that extra benefit. You're not getting anything from it.
That makes sense.
So just use it every other day or a little bit less, whatever you want, but don't go crazy. I find that helps me stay cool, too. And I know we've talked about this before. If you're lying in bed, you don't have to have it exactly, you know, strapped to your head, super tight. I'll lie in bed and just have it lying on my face. You know, where I'm feeling the breeze coming through there. It's nice and cool. So that's, that's another way to, like, keep it cool. And there's warmth in the mask, but that's just because, well, there's a light on. If you were to stand in front of these lights in here, they're warm.
Yeah.
They're not hot.
No.
They're warm.
You feel warm.
And you're feeling your breath too, even though it's breathable, you're still…
The lights, your body is 98.6 degrees. So that's radiating out, and the lights are coming back. So, so yeah, I mean, it's warm, but it's not hot, but you can make it cooler by just setting it on top and just lying there. And I like to do that anyway. I fall asleep with it on. I mean, it's fine, but that's a good way to do that. So yeah, we just want to get those few questions out as more come in and you leave more questions below, we're going to answer those moving forward in future videos.
Perfect.
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