The Foundation Mistake Aging Your Skin

It's a big question we do get. Should I wait X seconds or minutes between layering the products? And I'm a big mixer too.

No, and you still want it to feel moist, like you have stuff on your skin. Like, I know when I go to apply my sunblock, you kind of have to use a lot of it. Like I still feel like I still, my skin still feels wet, moist, you know, cause I just put all my serums and then, like, my creamy serums, and then I go right for the sunblock again. And then I just start kind of dabbing it, then rub it in.

It helps it spread a little further.

It does. It spreads nice and evenly.

You don't get any peeling, which I get the comments about. But a lot of times those people like to like take time and wait in between layers. I'm like, don't do that. Get it all on when your skin is moist. Then I feel like everything mixes nicely.

Yeah.

It doesn't separate. It's a nice base.

All right. Hot topic of the day.

Yeah.

Makeup and skincare. And how do they blend, and what are the best techniques and the best skincare layering applications so you avoid, you know, peeling and things like that that can occur when you maybe over-apply skincare or all of the things. We're going to dive into it.

All right. What I have to say about makeup, and what I've found as I get older, is: the less makeup, the better.

Less is more.

Really, less is more. I have yet to find a single foundation.

Right.

As I said, you know, for videos and stuff, you want your skin to look good, but I still don't wear foundation. Why? Because I can't find a foundation that actually makes my skin look better.

Right.

You know, for the most part, you put it on, and it makes everything look worse.

It accentuates all the fine lines.

The lines and like powder, forget powder, like that makes it even worse.

Definitely.

And cakey, and my gosh, like baking and all that where they put so much powder. You can do that when you're like 15, then in your 20s, and maybe in your 30s. But when you start to get a little bit older.

For sure.

Literally the only thing that I use as makeup is like our sunblock.

For sure.

You know, the COTZ Flawless that has a hint of SPF. Well, it has not; it has plenty of SPF in there. The SPF is 50, but it has, like, a little bit of color. You know, that is my makeup.

Sure.

Right? And that doesn't mean like I won't, you know, put a little bit of concealer.

Yeah.

You know, here and here. Yeah. I have melasma. I'll cover that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And when we're on camera here.

We have lights. We have a lot happening here.

You have to put more on, but, you know, I usually just like that. Like I don't have foundation on. I do not have that. That's my skin; it's my skin. I do have a little bit of, you know, concealer in here because it can look dark in here. And then I usually use, like, the bronzer because I have no tan.

Right.

So I'll use a little bit of bronzer on the outside and a little bit of blush, you know, and then just, like, your eye makeup, but not, like, covering with foundation. Just never looks good. It looks awful. And I've searched for old lady foundation and, you know, oil foundation, like anything I can find.

And foundation for mature skin.

I've done all the searches, and I've tried multiple brands, good brands, expensive brands.

Oh yeah.

And I have; I just don't wear it.

Well, my thought is it really starts with, you know, your skincare.

For sure.

Because you want your skin to be nice and hydrated, so anything that you are putting on, even if it is luxurious makeup, and if your skin is not nice and hydrated, it's going to accentuate every little fine line and wrinkle. You know, so let's talk about some of our Platinum Skincare products that they can use to prepare their skin for their, you know, makeup for the day.

I would say some of the biggest things, especially. You know, with aging skin and stuff, is to keep your skin nice and moist. So I always recommend, like, as soon as you're done washing your face, like don't sit there and like towel, towel, towel, like don't do that. You can touch your face with a towel for a second, but the goal is to keep your face moist when you start applying those serums. And obviously, you know, your water-based serums are first. So you want to pick things like either our Nano Hyaluronic or our Regenerate EGF. Those are all hyaluronic-based. Even our potions have a ton of hyaluronic acid. And hyaluronic acid pulls moisture, pulls water from the air, pulls from your body, pulls it to the surface of your skin to keep your skin nice and moist. So I think that is super, super important.

Then, obviously, you want to add on, you know, get your little thicker creams, and we're still doing this on damp skin. Like we're putting this on fast, you know, on your damp skin. Now you put your water-based serums on. Now, as I move into, like, Cell Intel, Secret Agent, some PDRN, I like to mix all that and put it on. Now I don't normally add on any face creams other than that anymore, but you can choose like vitamin B, Dermasnap, or Gaba. Put that on immediately. As I said, there's no waiting, but put it down, take the next one up.

It's a big question we do get. Should I wait X seconds or minutes between layering the products? And I'm a big mixer too.

No, and you still want it to feel moist, like you have stuff on your skin. Like, I know when I go to apply my sunblock, you kind of have to use a lot of it. Like I still feel like I still, my skin still feels wet, moist, you know, because I just put all my serums and then like my creamy serums. And then I go right for the sunblock again. And then I just start kind of dabbing it, then rub it in…

And it makes it spread a little further.

It does; it spreads nice and evenly. You don't get any kind of pilling, which I get the comments about, but a lot of times those people like to like take time and wait in between layers. I'm like, don't do that. Get it all on when your skin is moist, then I feel like everything mixes nicely.

Yeah.

It doesn't separate; it's a nice base.

Yeah, when I do talk to someone, and they do have that complaint about, you know, if they feel like their makeup is peeling off when they're putting it on, they're usually using too much product as well.

A lot of times it's too much product, or on occasion there might be, like, you know, it might be an ingredient, obviously an ingredient in that product. So that's fine with that thin layer, but when you're putting way too much on, then it's causing, you know, whatever it is, you know, to mix and cause that peeling. Another reason sometimes is if you have dry skin, you know, like if you did a peel and you're trying to put stuff on, oh, then everything looks awful.

Right.

You know, when your skin is peeling, same thing if your skin's dry. So, you know, make sure you're using exfoliating products. Like, you know, in our regimen, obviously we're telling you to use an acid cleanser every day. I feel that's the easiest way to get your skin smooth without leaving on an acid serum. So it's gonna be low, low irritation, but you're still taking that dead skin off every day, and then you won't have that dead skin. At night, retinoids also help minimize dead skin on your face. I think if you're doing those two things, and keeping it moist, putting it on when your skin is wet, I think that you're gonna have a better outcome.

I think Fade Bright's important as well, because a lot of times they're covering up pigmentation with the makeup, not just, you know, it could be some dark circles, some blemishes, but pigmentation is a big one as well.

Yeah, well, and that's my thing too, you know, is covering up, like I have melasma, right? I have just a spot here; it's not going anywhere. Some, we're gonna die together, but I can just cover it up. Yeah, I cover it up. That's all I can do. It's not leaving. It's been zapped and lasered and needled and peeled, and everything has been done to it. It's not going anywhere; it's my friend.

Right.

You know, there's nothing you can do.

You have to embrace it sometimes.

Sometimes you just, yeah, you just gotta live with it and be like, well, okay, that's where a little dab of cover-up is for, but you don't have to cover your entire face again with heavy foundation to do that. You don't have to do your whole face, just a little tiny spot. Just do it where you need it, you know? Otherwise everything looks thick and cakey.

Right, and the sunscreen does have a slight tint.

It does. I wonder, I wonder if I can- what color is this one? Light to medium. I wonder, let's open this one. Then we can like see, like, I love this color. And I think this is a good color for just about anybody.

That's interesting on my end, cause I'm very light-skinned.

Yeah.

First patch of one, two. And the color does not look bad on me. The only issue I have is cause I have a beard.

Yeah.

Or like a light beard or a trim. Now that I'm older, in my forties, and I have so much white hair, I have to, like, be careful about getting it into my white hair, cause it looks orange.

That makes it interesting.

And I like old man orange hair dye on my face.

Well, I love hearing your perspective, Darren, because we do get a lot of gentlemen who call who are doing peels, and they want to, you know, get a sunscreen, or they're just like in daily life, you know, and they get scared of the one. As soon as you say tinted, oh no, I don't want that one. You know, I don't want that one.

Right, it's not makeup. This is not like makeup.

I like that it makes me use the matte one, and that it gets rid of the oil and sheen.

Sure.

But I do have to be careful with both ones. And typically what I'll do is when it's, once it's in my beard, I kind of just- a lot of times I'll be on the boat, and I just take a microfiber, and I just kind of wipe the hair. And then it goes away, and then I'm good. So otherwise I need to put it on before I go out and let it soak in. And then usually it's not that big of a deal.

Right.

Yeah. Well, I mean, look, I mean, I rubbed it in. You can't even, you can't see anything. You can still see my veins through it. You can see the freckles I have. You can see it all, and it blends in any color. And it comes in two colors anyway, right? So that's the light to medium, or then there's richly tinted for people that are tanner, you know, Mediterranean skin, things like that. And I feel like even this is probably good for most people until you're really into maybe Fitzpatrick 4 or 5.

Sure.

Five to six. Then I think the richly tinted is probably the best, but yeah, that's it. And it's moisturizing. Like when I put that on, especially when your skin is still kind of like dampish, you put it on, it blends so nicely. Like, I almost feel like it leaves a little shiny sheen.

Yeah, that's nice.

Like where you do need a little dab of powder.

Yeah, the powder can get a little tricky.

Yeah, I mean, like, I don't, I don't know one of those pressed powders that you like get all over there.

Old school.

I do not do that. I have like a big fluffy brush that I, you know, go around, pat that off like crazy, and just kind of like dab it on.

Yeah, let's talk about, like, the application of makeup. I feel like brushes are, you know, a more subtle effect than the old school. As you said, remember the compact with the pad?

Well, and I remember too, I think it was Max Factor or something. Do you remember, like, it was like a stick, make everybody use it in like the eighties. And you know, you took the top off and pushed it up. It was very much like the one sunblock I remembered. And then you would go over your face and then rub it all in. But nowadays, when it's just so, so different, it doesn't matter that we had purple and blue eyeshadow; we still had a more natural makeup look back then than people do now. Like they're covered in layers and layers of stuff. And obviously.

Have you ever looked at one of the, you know, people who do makeup- I'm not naming anyone, but you know, a makeup video in general- the amount of makeup that they're putting on their face?

It's ridiculous.

Like, even starting with the foundation, they'll take the, and they're just like squirting it all over. And like, I'm like, I put the tiniest, and I'm like, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. I don't understand how much, but they are young. Most of them are young.

Yeah. But still they don't need that coverage.

It's just insane.

What do you need? What are you covering up? Unless you have acne or acne scars, I can kind of understand that. But like most young people, they don't need to put that on. You can skip that step, just do your concealer, and then go on with the rest of your makeup, and nobody will know. I think they might do it because they sometimes want to change their skin color, but that's obvious. That is so, so obvious when they go on; their face looks orange, and it might be blended into their neck, but there's always a demarcation, and it's not pretty. And I think a lot of times makeup is put on to try to change the color of the skin.

Yeah, that's true.

I want to be more tan, or I want to be lighter and more even. And that's very different because you have, like, actual changes in your melanin. Like when you have intense melasma, or you have darker skin that's different colors. You know, with Indian or Asian skin, there are often darker and lighter areas. I can understand wanting to even things out. But at the end of the day, that's where that makeup should be temporary, right? Your main focus should be on fixing the things you're trying to cover. A lot of times those can be fixed, especially with the pigmentation irregularities and stuff. I mean, Fade Bright, that's a melanin inhibitor. If you work up to using that twice a day, use another retinoid at night. I would also suggest, like Cell Intel, the DNA repair enzymes, and think about a peel, either Mendelic or Lactic if you want something light. Jessner, if you want something a little stronger, you know, get your daily regimen, start doing a series, and take your photos. And I think, you know, by the time you're done with your peel series, or one or two peel series, whatever you have to do, I think your skin's gonna be so much nicer that your makeup won't be such a huge thought.

Exactly.

And that's what it should be. It's a temporary fix.

One of our newer products, the PDRN Veil Recovery Mask. I absolutely love that product. I feel it improves your skin; if you use it at night, you wake up with it, or you could even use it in the morning.

Yeah, because there's so much; you can leave it on.

Right, so I feel like it makes your skin so supple and hydrated.

Dewy.

Yeah, dewy is a perfect word. It makes your skin feel nice and dewy. And I feel like the next day, it's like you do need less, and your makeup goes on super smooth. I love our Dermazyme.

Dermazyme, the scrub that ends.

Dermazyme scrub, yes, I love that as well.

That makes it nice and smooth.

Sometimes I'll use that as well because it helps remove all that dead skin. So that will help your makeup go on a little bit smoother as well. But again, like with the products, you wanna be consistent. You wanna make sure you're hydrating, working on that pigmentation. And I think the focus should be more on skincare than makeup for sure.

Yeah, think of that as like your temporary way to get you through until your skin looks good. And I mean, that's what we see in the group every day. And people writing in, like they're finally kind of catching on that it's not about the makeup, it's about your skin. And they get excited when they're like, you know, I run to the bank, they got not a stitch of makeup on. And everyone's like, your skin's so beautiful. I guarantee you, nobody's saying that when you got a face full of makeup. They'll be like, well, your makeup's pretty. You know, not your skin's beautiful because you can't see your skin.

What about the lady in the guru group who posted she was in the hospital?

Yeah, she went, and she had surgery.

Yeah, something happened.

And she's like, the doctor told me my skin looked amazing.

Yeah, I remember reading recently she was in the hospital. I was in the ICU or something. I can't remember exactly what she said. She goes, but the amount of compliments I received on my skin, you know. Isn't that awesome?

That is so cool.

That is cool. And seeing it, she probably didn't even realize. You're probably like, "I think you know your skin feels good and looks good, but you don't realize how good until other people start saying it to you." And then you're like, wow, I guess it is good.

Absolutely.

You know, it does kind of creep up on you. Cause I mean, like even myself, like when I was younger, I had lots of freckles, and you know, all these things that you don't enjoy on your face. And you're like, I don't have any of that anymore. So, you know, sometimes I do try to look with a positive eye, you know, at myself in the mirror and be like, you know, that's not so bad, right? This looks all right. I think it's looking good, you know. And hello, that's what you want.

If you look good, you feel good. If you feel good, you look good, right?

That's right.

That's what we want.

And that's what we want here is for everybody to feel good.

It is exactly our goal. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah.

Any other questions or anything else you can think of, Darren, that we are... We skipped?

No, I think you guys are good.

All right.

Good, all right.

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