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The Potion & Copper Masterclass: Everything You Need to Know

Two big topics today. Lots of questions always come in on these, and we're going to tell you all about them. We're discussing Dr. Platinum Potions and copper peptides today. We're going to go through each and every one. We're going to tell you everything you need to know and what they're best for.

Perfect.

All right, so what shall we start with? Let's go over some of our Dr. Platinum Potions. I think we should just go right down the line.

Yeah, absolutely. So obviously, what our Dr. Platinum Potions are, first and foremost, is a specific ingredient. So you're purchasing one ingredient, right? And it's at a very high percentage. So this is meant to be added into one of your favorite serums or creams, or there's so much room for dilution.

Like this happens to be in my hand right here, the Synake. So this is a 50% serum right here. So, the studies I've done in Synake, I think, used somewhere between 2 and 5 percent. So two to five percent…

And this is 50.

Yeah, like a finished product. So yeah, let's think of this as a concentrate. So, what we can do with something like this is we can add it to another favorite product. Like, let's say you have a cream or serum you love, but you really want to add another ingredient. Well, you know, we give you a little direction card. It'll tell you, you know, pour half of this in there and you're going to get this percentage.

Right.

So that's how we want to work with these. And there are a lot of people, of course, who like to use them all by themselves, right? Like if I have a Synake, which is like a Botox alternative type product. So you put something like this on, you can, of course, you can put it on your whole face. But like, let's say you people like to target, you know, their elevens around the eyes, things like that, where you would normally get injections.

Now, and I'm not saying this is going to replace an injection. It's not.

Sure.

But it will either enhance the current injections you get, or if you apply something like this all the time, it will take a few months to really kick in. It really does slow muscle contractions, making those lines appear less harsh. So this is a super one. Yeah, this is a great one to start with. We sell a whole lot of this.

Yeah. I've got really good feedback on elongating the injection time frame.

Yeah. Normally, with Botox, you're going to get about three to four months.

Yeah.

Average. I mean, it's already like completely wearing off by, you know, that fourth month. But yeah, a lot of people will put this on, and then they'll get, you know, maybe five months or so in between. That's, you know, saving you money in the long run.

Absolutely.

And this is, you know, benefiting that. And we do have people who will use just this and swear it's plenty for them. Like they no longer require injections. I've heard that enough times to say that with confidence.

Yes.

So now we can obviously we can just use one at a time. We can mix multiples of these together. And that's what we offer, like our two and four potion bottles here, right? So this is a four-potion bottle. That means we can fit four different potions inside here, and it can be any way you like. And this is like for someone who just wants a superpowered serum. Right? They're like, I don't want to mix it into other products. I want something like a super high-potency serum.

And let's say you can just get a large bottle of, let's say, for example, Synake. Maybe you get either a 2-ounce or a 4-ounce bottle of Synake. You just want that.

Or maybe you want two Synake, a Syn-TC, and a Matrixyl. So we can mix and match however you want. It doesn't have to be one, one, one, one. It could be three of this one, one of that one, two of this, one of that, whatever you want.

Totally customizable.

We custom-make these for you. We open these, and we put in the exact serums you want. And then, like, on this bottle right here, it's like, "Here's your custom formula." We'll put a little sticker that tells you exactly, you know, whether you have one, two, three, or four different products in here.

Absolutely.

So that's pretty cool. There's a big common question that people are asking. And I think we should probably just address that real quick. It's like, is the percentage going to be diluted? Yeah, of course it is. Right. You know, if you have one of these in here, that's going to, for example, that'll remain 50%. But if you have, you know, two of those and two of something else, yeah, each one of those is cut in half, but still 25% of something that's used at two to 5% is still many, many, many, many times more potent than you really, really need. So mixing four different potions is not going to make something like one of these.

The mildest percentage we have is 35%. You know, we have 35%, 50%, and 75%. So it doesn't matter what you mix. Yes, the total percentage of that ingredient is going down because you're putting, you know, two, three, four, but still so, so, so strong. You could mix four of these, then mix that into a different, you know, serum and still get the percentages you want. So that's a great option for people.

I tend to say that the two potion works really well for someone who wants to concentrate on a couple of ingredients in the eye area. And then like the four potions are good for the face because sometimes, you know, you want some ingredients, you're okay to mix them, and others just want a spot treat.

Right. They may want to isolate, like the Botox, for certain areas. And I know a lot of ladies will get the two potions for like the neck or…

Yes, if you have a specific area in mind. So I just wanted to mention that because that's a really, really big question that we get all the time.

And you get a bit of a discount, too.

Now you do. So that, of course, now if you get a single potion, it's the one set price, and they're all the same price. If you get two potions, it's discounted.

Yes. If you get four potions, it's discounted again.

That's right.

So yeah, you were definitely saving money, obviously, the more that you're purchasing.

For sure.

So, I have my little list here. And this is on the website. So anybody can go to either the two-potion or the four-potion page and look at this exact list I have here, which gives a little summary of what each of these does, and then some great combination areas.

Absolutely.

So we talked about Synake. This is, you know, an injection alternative. That's something that will help to minimize those lines and slow down muscle contractions. And then let's talk about another one. This is SYN-TC. This one, I always think of to remember what it is, is a TC. I think of total collagen.

Yes.

And this is an excellent one for stimulating collagen and tightening the skin. I absolutely love SYN-TC. It's probably one of the favorites, I don't know. They're all favorites.

It's one of our biggest sellers.

It's an original favorite.

This is an OG. This is one of the original ones.

It really was. Yeah. We do sell a lot of that.

A ton of that one. And that one I like, I will mix that in with anything. That's a really good one. Now Apple Stem Cell. This is another one that we've had for a long time. It's not going to have a specific function like that. This is more of an all-over function, helping your skin to work better like younger skin. It helps train your skin to behave the way it did when it was younger. It helps with that chronological aging.

Kind of slows down the aging process a bit, maybe?

I would say for sure. It regulates things. This is what it says. Regulates chronological aging. There's a spec sheet on every single one of these pages, and you can go in-depth. You can see in vitro testing and all of that kind of stuff. You can see specifically how often they were used, what percentages they're tested at. And you'll find that all of these really are about 2%.

Right. And it actually comes from an apple.

Yes.

So online it says, shows significant anti-aging results, including stimulating human stem cell growth by up to 80%, reducing wrinkle depth, and enhancing skin longevity. So it's all about wrinkle reduction and elasticity, increased skin vitality, protection against UV aging, and improving skin density, which seems to be connected to…

Yeah. It's an all-around, encompassing, really good ingredient. So if you're looking for a third or fourth one to add, and you just want something really general and broad-reaching, the apple stem cell is it.

Super anti-aging. Yes.

Super anti-aging. All right. So next is another stem cell that comes from another fruit. This one is a Citrustem.

Right.

And this is another one that I absolutely love.

Yes.

And their little claim to fame is that it increases your skin's elasticity by 12 years.

Right.

This was in there. That's kind of like their little claim. And this one, I used to always recommend Citrustem and SYN-TC. I'm thinking collagen and elastin, collagen and elastin.

Yeah.

That makes sense. This is one of my favorites. This is another OG one. We've had this one for many, many, many years. And this is a super one.

I think that's my favorite of all of the potions.

Elasticity.

Absolutely.

That one's great.

So good for the neck. So good for all-over face tightening, rebuilding elasticity, and fibers. 28 days, morning and night. Take a photo.

Yes, absolutely. Do you have any other info on this one, Darren, that you would like to search?

So it basically says Fibroblast stimulation. So it encourages Fibroblast, the cells responsible for producing collagen and elastin, to work harder. So it's a structural reorganizer. As we age, the skin's internal scaffolding becomes disorganized. Citrustems help realign these structures.

Yeah. And then of course, increase elasticity. Like, so obviously, we're just trying to simplify this for you. Like, a lot of times people are like, "I need to work on this." I need to work on that collagen, elastin, you know, whatever it is, we're trying to like simplify this and make it really easy for you to make a choice.

Like, give you the cliff notes version.

This is exactly what this is. This is a little cliff notes. And when you're on the page selecting these descriptions that are in your selection, you know, it'll say like Citrustem, elasticity, you know, apple stem, this. All right. So the next one is another favorite, of course, is Matrixyl Synthe'6. And this one is specifically where we focus a lot.

It's really good for the area around the eye, helping with your crow's feet. But it's also good for stimulating the production of hyaluronic acid and collagen. So hyaluronic stimulation in the skin will make your skin more moisturized.

Collagen, of course, you want to thicken and plump those underlying layers. So obviously, together, if you think you like more moisture and thicker collagen, that's all going to help with your crow's feet.

Sure.

So this is a good one. And so when we talk about doing maybe the two potion combos, this is always one of them.

Yeah. We sell a lot of that one, too.

Always one of the Matrixyls. Got any other exciting tidbits?

No, it just says that it simulates six major constituents of the skin matrix and the dermal.

Epidermal junction.

Epidermal function. So it simulates all six or three collagen types, along with the other sublevels of the skin.

Yeah. So it's famous as a wrinkle filler.

Yes.

Yeah. That's awesome.

Yeah. Super duper for the eye area, but also good for the whole face. It's not that it just can be on the eyes.

Yes.

Right. So another ingredient that you can get in here, and we are actually physically using our Regenerate, which is our epidermal growth factor. And there are also other growth factors in here from our, what is that blend called? Bioplacenta.

It's got tons of different oligopeptides and all this wonderful stuff. So, when you select EGF (epidermal growth factor), we are literally putting our Regenerate serum in there. So yes, that's another question that we get all the time. Is it EGF? Is it your Regenerate? It is our Regenerate. So we are actually putting our Regenerate in there for that portion. So we don't have these little tiny babies in Regenerate because it comes in a full-size bottle, and a lot of people love to use it on their whole face every day.

But if you're getting either a two-potion or a four-potion, we add our Regenerate serum into that.

Yes.

And we all know how super Regenerate is. It's like healing and anti-aging. There are just so many good things. You got some more tidbits here. What do we have on our?

Rapid cell turnover, collagen and elastin boost, much like Matrixyl, texture correction, and barrier repair.

Barrier repair. Gosh, that's something that we hear all the time. And I don't always, I mean, I guess I do always say to use the epidermal growth factors and the exosomes and things and PDRN when I'm thinking of barrier repair, but I don't always think about that when I'm explaining what it does. But yeah, that's another really good one.

And our bodies contain epidermal growth factors, and those little epidermal growth factor soldiers kind of go to the scene of the crime. Like if you have a little paper cut or something, you know…

Absolutely. It makes your epidermis regrow itself.

They start trying to fix things.

And that's why it's so good after things like chemical peels and needling, and during needling treatments and stuff. So good for your skin.

So if you're already using this full-size in your regimen, you don't necessarily need to add it.

Yes, exactly.

Save that space for one of the others.

And on the flip side, if you don't want to buy the full bottle and there's maybe three of these actives you really like, well, make that your fourth active in here, and then you can get it all. Because I have talked to a few people who want to maybe simplify their regimen, using this potion or that, and they're using Regenerate. And I'm like, “Well, you could always, like, let's say you're using two potions. You could do two potions, and you could do two potions of Regenerate.” And now you're getting all of it together. So it's kind of what works best for you. So what do we have next here? We have our Adipofill'IN.

And this one, I think, is one most people probably like to use on their own.

Yes.

Maybe not putting it in the combo so much because this is something that makes your fat expand. So this is really well targeted to the adipose tissue. So, areas under your eyes, and you can see a diagram on the Adipofill'IN page that shows where it's going to help you. It helps with the nasal labial folds. It helps, you know, around here. And I think it can even help around the eyes, down the center here. I wanted this so badly to work like on the actual lips, but I guess there's not quite enough adipose tissue in the lips.

It can help a smidge, but not a whole lot, but you can certainly still use it on your outer lip lines in your nasal folds. So this is a great one. So if you wanted to put this one on first, maybe let it dry for a few minutes, then put your other serum on top, and it'll kind of stay localized. But this is a super one too.

And a question that I have received about that one is, if they put it in a potion and put it all over their face, is it going to cause my face to plump up?

No. Right. And if you go to the Adipofill'IN page, you will see the exact areas where your adipose tissue is located. And it's, it's where you want it. You know, it's in the cheek areas and under here, and you know, the areas that we're losing our fat, really.

Right.

So it's not really going to be a problem. It's not going to cause.

But you do want to isolate it because you know…

I feel that the best use of that product is to isolate it where you want it. I will probably use that one separately or, you know, maybe mix it with one other one that's stimulating and just be very, very specific with that. You got anything exciting?

So this is Joy's. She uploaded this last year. And it's interesting because the before and after is over five years, but you know, you can tell that her whole jawline has plumped up, you know, and smoothed out.

And she's using the Progeline and the Adipofill'IN. We're almost to that one. That's next.

Yeah.

That's awesome.

That's very cool.

Very nice pictures. I love it when people take pictures.

This one's really cool too. This one was, we did this on the neck episode, and she put it on this page. I'm not sure what she was using. Progeline and SKINectura, which we'll get to.

Yep.

But that was that pretty amazing transformation in terms of the crepiness and the concentration.

Definitely. Well, and Progeline is the next one too. And that's in both of those photos. So Progeline is for tightening your jawline, increasing elasticity, and firming the skin. And Progeline is one that I looked into for a long time. I actually had a customer ask me about it once, probably a few years back. And I had looked into it, and I tried somebody else's product. And I was like, I'm really interested in this.

And did a little bit of research. And finally, that's when I started working with Lucas Meyer, who is where we get a lot of these newer ones, like Adipofill'IN, Progeline, SKINectura, and all that. Lucas Meyer is a great ingredient manufacturer. They make the individual ingredients. And yeah, this one, there are just some of these products that claim to transform you in a day. It's this ingredient that's in there, Progeline.

There are some with some doctors' names on them and things like that. Oh, it's going to tighten your face. Now I'm not claiming it's going to tighten your face, but you know what? It is really, really good. And there's no way you're getting it at the percentages we're giving you. Like this one is 35%. I guarantee you that in any of those products where they're claiming the world, there's probably 2%.

You know what I mean? So this is 35%. If you want to use it by itself, yeah, concentrate on this, but I think it will be great in one of the combinations.

Sure.

And we'll go over a couple of different combinations at the end, but this is a super one. You got some good stuff here.

Yeah. So the science is that there's this protein in our bodies called Progerin.

Yep.

And it messes with the DNA structure of your skin. It makes cells go through senescence faster, and it triggers enzymes that eat away at your existing collagen.

Oh, that's not good.

No.

So Progeline works by inhibiting that and essentially slowing down that whole cellular clock, so to speak.

Well, that's important. Very important. And ha, the Jawline Tightener, Elasticity, Firming. Yeah. That is what this is for. Jawline, Elasticity, and Firming. And that's like when you're selecting these in a dropdown, that's what it says.

Yeah.

You know, Jawline Elasticity and Firming.

There you go.

Make it easy for you to choose.

Absolutely.

But yeah, my problem is that I say, like, they're all good. Like, I feel like you need to get two floor potion combos, you know?

Right.

Pick all the ones because they're all so good.

Absolutely.

And yeah, Progeline, that's another one that you could just throw in with anything, and it's going to help.

For sure.

All right. So the next one is Sculptessence. And this one is for facial contouring. So think of this as like a hyaluronic injection alternative. So this one, if you like, you can kind of like the Adipofill'IN. This would actually work nicely with Adipofill'IN, because that's increasing your fat. And this is increasing like the plumping as well.

I could see that.

Think of this one as something to help, you know, plump. And obviously, you know, when people get injections, it's a hyaluronic acid-based filler. All of those ones out there where you're plumping lips and plumping areas.

So think of this as an alternative to that, a topical alternative. So this will help to plump the areas. I think this would be good, like on the lip area, around the entire mouth area, you know, where you're getting those upper lip lines. This, of course, will be helpful around the nasal fold area. Like I feel like, wow, more than I'm thinking about this, I feel like Adipofill'IN and Sculptessence would be an awesome two-potion combo.

Absolutely.

If you want to focus on the areas that are deflating as we age, which is just so common. 

Or even the Syn-TC with the Sculptessence around the mouth.

Yes.

Yeah. Stimulating collagen and plumping the areas.

For sure.

What do you have?

Oh, it just simulates glycosaminoglycans.

Glycosaminoglycans are your natural moisturizers.

Yeah. And then protects collagen and improves dermal tone, tightening.

Tightening. Yes.

We're all about the tightening.

Tightening, stimulating collagen, and stimulating elastin. We are trying…

To ward off that gravity.

That is exactly what we need. So what is the last one we have here in our lineup? And that doesn't mean it's the end forever, but it's the end at the moment.

Yes.

I'm always looking into new ingredients, but it has to be, you know, kind of different from these. Maybe, you know, new things come out all the time. So you just have to keep watching.

But SKINectura. So this one is very good for neck lines, sagging skin, and eye wrinkles. So another one that can be mixed with the Matrixyl for the eye area and neck lines.

Obviously, we get that all the time. People talk about it like tech neck. We just talked about tech neck the other day.

Yes, we did.

So this is something we might have even forgotten to mention. But yeah. And then sagging skin. Okay. So sagging skin is the big thing with SKINectura. Like this could be mixed with Progeline to tighten sagging skin, like the jawline. That's a really, really good use for this. What else have we got? Anything?

Well, it's funny, as I read it, I thought it was made from kangaroo paw. But it's a kangaroo paw flower.

Yes, kangaroo paws.

Oh, that's interesting. You're like, well, this puts a new spin on things.

Yeah. It's the one-two punch now. So the neck expert, building effects, rapid results, so speed-based, but it increases the contractile force of your skin and regulates spacing, which is interesting, other than boosting structural proteins.

Yes. So it's making your skin firmer, which is why it's good for the neck and jaw area. And yeah, we want that. I think DMAE can do that too. That's on one of the coppers. We're going to talk about copper soon.

Let's talk about how often one should use these products and why it's important.

Yeah. Like peptides in general, you want to use peptides one to two times per day, with two times per day being preferential. And this is a nice thin serum. These are thin serums.

So this is easy to fit into your morning routine. It doesn't matter what you put them on with. They're not harmed by acids or similar substances.

So when we're putting our layer on, the only serums that would go on before this are acid- or alcohol-based. So, like, Fade Bright could go on before this, or Serum 15, or Serum 30. That will go on first, then Fade Bright.

Then you could put your water-based serums like this. Follow those with a little thicker serums, maybe like Cell Intel or Secret Agent. Move on to your creams for those with drier skin: DermaSnap or Gaba. And then end with an oil if you're really, really dry, like Emu Oil or Essential Oils, and then your SPF. So that's like a really easy way to put it on. Put it on your morning routine, and then you can add it to your evening treatments too, because two times per day is best.

Yeah, because it kind of builds in your skin.

It does build in your skin, and you want to use it. You let it build. And take photos, because a lot of times people, like, I can't say this enough, you know, even with peels, you could do a series of peels and be like, I don't see a difference. Well, you know, what do you expect from a topical, right? You have to take photos.

Yes.

Take a photo so that you can look at it, and then look at it 90 days later. Like take one per month for, you know, three months, and look at day zero, and look at day 90, and you're going to be seeing some changes.

Absolutely.

But if you're looking in the mirror every single day, you're not going to see those changes. It's like you have to wait a while before you see them.

Right.

And how many, how many reviews do we have that mention, I didn't, I didn't notice, and then I took, I saw a picture of me six months ago, or three months ago, I was blown away. 

Yep.

I mean, we try to say it.

I know. Say it a hundred times. Take a picture.

Well, and this is the other thing. I didn't really think it was doing that much until I ran out, and then I was like, “oh, I see the wrinkles coming”, but you know, they really see the result, but they don't, they don't really see it, like you said, and then once they stop using it, and think, oh, that didn't work, and then they're like, wait a minute.

Wait, maybe it did work, because I mean, it's true. It's like when you look in the mirror and remember what you look like. You do not remember what you looked like last week. You don't remember what you looked like yesterday when you looked in the mirror, and there, you know, there could be subtle changes every day, but you don't know.

You only know what you looked like the last time you looked at yourself in the mirror. So no, you're not going to know what you looked like a month ago, or two months ago. You must document it, and people get so excited when they see the photos. They see other people's photos, but then it's like they don't give themselves the chance to see it. 

Right.

Take the photo. You will see it.

And we are our worst critics, as we know.

Of course.

So when we look in the mirror, if you have a certain area that you are not happy with, that's all you see. That's all you focus on.

Yep.

You know what I mean? So it's like, it may be doing something down here, and you're just worried about these, or you know.

Right.

So it's like, yeah, the photos.

The photos are everything. You're looking at their photos, and you're excited. It's like, they're not fake photos.

No.

These are real photos. These are real customers, and on the ones, if you look at each individual product's page, you'll see the photos from the testing for that particular ingredient.

Yeah.

The ingredient manufacturer. They're there.

Yes.

And they're real.

Yeah.

So you just have to, you know, give yourself, give your own skin the chance. And yeah, the testimonials on there are from our actual customers.

Yes.

They have emailed us these photos and have sent them in. They had to purchase it from our website to write that review.

Yes.

Right

 You have to be, you know, a customer to write reviews. There aren't any fraudulent reviews of any kind on there.

No. And they're sharing their stories because they're excited.

They're excited.

And they want you to experience what they're experiencing.

Exactly.

You know.

So let's just go over this, and this is on the two-potion and the four-potion before we just close up on this, and you can look at this too.

Sure.

These are some good combinations. So we've already kind of talked about combinations as we went, but you can see eyes. We talked about Matrixyl Synthe'6, SKINectura, Citrustem, Adipofill'IN, you know, on the under eye hollows, the Apple Stem Cell, and EGF. You don't have to do them all. You can pick a couple of them and do a two- or four-potion.

For the neck area, we like skin SKINectura, Syn-TC, Progeline, and EGF. Those are really great recommendations. The nasolabial folds extend all the way down here.

Yep.

Syn-TC, Adipofill'IN, Progeline, you know, add on more. There's whatever you want.

For the lips, we're thinking Sculptessence because of that plumping. Syn-TC for, you know, collagen, and then for general collagen and elastin, we got Syn-TC, Citrustem, SKINectura, and Progeline. So, like, that would be a great one to even just start with. I always used to say Syn-TC plus Citrustem, and now we've got the SKINectura and Progeline. Like that's just a great starter for somebody to get started. Just super products, and that's on the pages. So, like, you don't have to remember this. I always keep this as a reference when we're doing our things because I don't remember every single little bit, but they're there for you.

Yeah.

So take a look at that. I don't know if we'll have a downloadable for that. We could possibly do that too, but yeah, it's there for you.

They're all great. I mean, you really can't go wrong. I mean, these are action-packed products, especially when combined.

Absolutely, or like I said, adding them into your, and I mean, you had a favorite cream from some expensive cream that you love, but it doesn't have a couple of ingredients you like. You can add that. One other use for these that we didn't talk about is if you're doing micro-infusion.

Yeah.

I just thought about this.

That's true.

And we don't want you to ever needle with these straight. It's just too potent. We don't want you to needle 50% of something or 35% of something in your skin. But like, let's say here's our EHR serum, and you pour this into your tool. You can add a couple of drops, one drop, maybe two drops. Let's say if you've got a couple of different ones, you want to do a drop of this and a drop of that. You can add those drops to the serum you're needling with. So you can needle with these, but I don't want you to needle full strength. I want you to add a drop, you know, of this one or a drop of that one.

Is there a maximum? I know that's going to be the next question. “Is there a maximum? You know, I've got all 10 of them. Can I put all 10?” I feel like that might be too much. I feel like maybe you should choose no more than two or three to put into your serum to needle with. And then, yeah. And then maybe next time you do your needling, use a couple of different ones. One drop of this, one drop of this, one drop of this. But I just want to mention that, and it is in the needling direction booklet. It says you can use Dr. Platinum Potions.

It also says you can use milder copper peptides, like GHK-7 or CP serum. But we're going to get into copper serums in a second.

Yes, lots of questions always come in about the copper peptides.

Yeah, I'm going to move this aside, and we can start talking about that. I'm going to just pop some up here.

Yeah, absolutely.

Because we have every single one here.

And it can be confusing because, you know, there are many.

People are confused.

There are many, but it really is quite simple when you break it down into the two categories. 

Right. And so the coppers that we carry, let's just start here. The coppers that we carry are by Dr. Loren Pickart, who has passed away in the past couple of years.

That's correct.

He, in the 19, I think it was like 19, oh, these all have plastic on them, about 1973, I think it was, he isolated the GHK peptide here. And this is the original one.

That was the first generation, copper.

First generation. So GHK. This one is, I'm going to say, milder. It's a little bit more fragile.

Right.

Than his later generation work. But this was where it started. And you can see just how bright blue this is. And there are other products that contain GHK. And you'll see they are not as blue as Dr. Pickart’s. The reason is that he adds more copper. And no, we do not know the exact percentages. He has never shared it.

Right.

And his daughter, who has taken over, is not going to share it. That's something that's his trade secret. He's never going to release. He has given levels of strength.

Yes.

That you can go by if you want to know, like the potency of that ingredient. There's an order to that. So this one technically is listed as one of the strongest, even though it's a mild product. The reason it's listed as the strongest is that it's 7%. And this is not meant to be applied full strength. This is meant to be diluted into another product.

That's right.

So this is listed as the strongest, but it doesn't mean it's the strongest copper.

Right.

Yeah. In the list. So people get confused with that. They're like, this is the strongest one. I'm like, “No, it has the highest volume of copper in here. It's 7%.” This is the only one that we actually know is 7%. Because this is 7%. But this is meant to be diluted. On the website, you will find the chart included. He gives you a chart, but we don't generally mix it into half-ounce and two-ounce. So most of our bottles are 1 or 1/2 ounces.

So we created our own little chart on the website. And it depends on what percentage you want to make it. You can make it 0.5%, 1%, 2%, or 3%. It's on the page. And if you want to make a different odd percentage below that one, they'll tell you how many drops to apply. And then below that one is one where you can decide, like, let's say you have a six-ounce bottle or something, but have to do it by MLs.

So let's just, for ease, say 60 ML. That's a two-ounce bottle. And then what's the current GHK percentage? Probably zero. And then we're going to do our desired percentage. Let's pretend it's three percent. So let's say three. And then we're going to come out with nine hundred drops. Like, I don't even know if there are nine hundred drops in here.

Right.

I forgot that the page tells you how many drops are in here. I thought it was like I can't remember what it is. But you can create anything you want, any percentage you want. And so, who is this good for? Right. This is good for someone, I feel, who has maybe more fragile skin, crepey skin. You're aging. Maybe you're sensitive. Maybe you have rosacea.

Yes.

Definitely somebody that's not using acids at the same time, because GHK is fragile, meaning you can't put tretinoin on at the same time, because tretinoin is the acid form of vitamin A. It will damage the GHK.

Got it.

And you couldn't put, like, our serum 15 or 30 on at the same time.

Right.

Fibroids fine. Fibroid has a very, very low acid content. It's not like a high percentage like that. So you would want to use it like that. Now, what's another?

You can't use it with vitamin C.

No strong acids.

No strong acids.

Vitamin C, glycolic acid, salicylic acid, and no retinoids simultaneously.

Yeah. So, vitamin C plays the same role in the first and second generations. You really don't want to put copper on with vitamin C.

But our retinol is unique.

Right. So tretinoin is acid. The other versions, like the one in our fusion A, have retinaldehyde. That's not in an acid form. Grain active retinoid is not in an acid form. Retinol is not in an acid form. The retinol esters and retinol palmitates and all that, they're not acids. Only the prescription is an acid. So all of those can go on at the same time as this without any issues. There are other prescriptions out there. You're going to have to check those. I want to say adapalene is not an acid. There are so many new ones and new brand names coming all the time. You would just have to do a quick Google search and be like, 'Does this?' Is this in the acid form?

Sure.

Because if it's an acid, don't put it at the same time as this.

Right.

So ours is fine. Most of them out there are fine. So you can add this to anything. And then we also carry two others. So we carry the GHK Luxe Eye Cream. This contains 2% GHK. We don't want to add more GHK to this.

Right.

If you have a GHK product, you don't want to add more GHK to it.

Correct.

So this is perfect as is for your eyes. Very, very light layer. Don't go heavy with this eye cream. Less is more. And we can talk about why.

Right. And then we have the GHK CU. So this is the Krapey Skin Escape. This one has the 3%. This is what I was thinking.

Yes.

And this is a little bit costly, but if you were to like try to make it with this, this isn't a bad deal.

Right.

This really isn't a bad deal. Use this for like other things. But yeah.

Crepey Skin Escape is amazing for the body, neck, and face.

Yep.

Absolutely. And backing up to the 7%, I do want to make one point: I like to just do a pump or two of, let's say, my Regenerate or my moisturizer, and then add in one drop.

Yeah. A lot of times, people don't mix this into something.

Yeah.

But yeah, it comes with a very skinny little tip in here because it's meant to drop into very precise.

And it will give you that most perfect little drop. And then that's the way I like to apply that one.

Absolutely. One drop. And, you know, could you put it on full strength if you really wanted to focus on something? You probably could. I would, you know, but I wouldn't do it every day. 

Right. Yeah.

You know, maybe like a treatment every once in a while, but yeah, use caution with that. So what else? So we don't want to put it on with vitamin C. Generally, copper is applied at night, and vitamin C is applied during the day.

Right.

And what is the conflict? Dr. Pickart has always stated that he did not feel that copper peptides, of any form, and vitamin C play well together.

Right.

I don't know. He never said which one damages the other one. It doesn't even really matter. Just put your copper on it.

They just kind of cancel each other out, or one will cancel the other out, or something like that.

Yeah. I never really got from him. He just said don't put them on at the same time. And we've just always done that. I do know of some customers who put them on at the same time and don't have any issues. And that's fine, too. You know, I don't know his reasoning. He never really got deep into it. It was just a phone call, you know, where I learned that. But nonetheless…

I mean, it is on, you know, the almighty Google, to not put it together.

And it is on our page as well.

Exactly. And I stand strong with that because I feel like, you know, he is the chemist. He knows his he he invented these products…

Decades, like 40, 50 years worth of working with these. So he knows more than anybody. 

Yes.

How to use these products effectively.

Absolutely. So that is all of our first. Oh, wait. This is a first-generation copper, though, too. 

Well, this is both. OK, this hair indicates we need to update the website photo. This one comes with the sprayer.

Yeah, that's nice.

So this hair signal includes both first- and second-generation components, as evidenced by studies… The original studies on follicle stimulation used only GHK. And then there were some studies done with the second generation, and both were really good. So then they combined them. And now we have the hair signals. And this is super. Now, if you're a super, super blonde, I would be like less is more or I might go directly to skin biology because I believe he makes a formula for blondes.

Oh, interesting.

I believe he does. I'm almost positive we might need to just carry that, depending on how much of that we go through. But this is both of them. And this is to be lightly sprayed into your scalp. I would like to separate my hair a bit and kind of rub it in. Don't try to soak your head. That's what people do. They try to soak their heads. Don't do that. Just pull your hair apart, rub it in, rub it in. You shouldn't go through a ton of this.

Yeah.

And just continuously use this every time you wash your hair. And this helps to stimulate stronger follicles and stronger hair growth. And I think this is super! He does recommend using this alongside products like Rogaine (Minoxidil). He recommends using them together.

Agree.

I would say put this on first, then your Rogaine. But definitely. Yeah, that's a really good option.

You get a lot of calls about the GHK for the hair, and then you know, we talk about the hair signals, and then we talk about the 7% GHK diluting that down into maybe a water-based spritz or something.

Exactly.

Yeah.

And that's because they've run across that one study where they talked about it.

Yes.

But that's why they combined it. So this is already in here. This is both. So this is really a win-win. And it's really not expensive. No, you know, for how much you're getting.

Exactly.

It's a lot of dollars. OK, so that is our first generation and then our little hybrid product…

and then the second generation. So obviously, Dr. Pickart created this in the 70s.

Yes.

He had a company called ProCyte, which he later sold. And when he sold that company, he lost the rights to this product.

Right.

So he lost his patents and decided to file a second patent. That's when he founded Skin Biology and developed the second generation. And he created this, trying to overcome the problems with the original one, which was fragile…

stability issues…

Not necessarily penetrate into the skin as easily as it should.

Yeah.

So he created the second generation, and it's completely different. It's not the GHK. This is like the copper two-plus ion.

Yes.

And it's related to the soy protein or something along those lines. So it's completely different. Still blue. And what he did was he created Super Cop 2X first.

Yes.

This is the very strongest option. And when he gave it to people to test it, it was too irritating.

Right.

And so what he did was water it down. He watered it down to Super Cop, which we don't carry because it's too similar. And then the next watered-down one is the Super CP Serum. Now we're moving into serums.

Yes.

And then CP Serum.

Yes.

So he had to keep diluting it until people were happy, and they're like, “Yeah, I can use this one.”

Right.

But then he says they ended up working their way back up to this one. So it's like he goes, it's not a good starting point, but it's a nice finishing point.

Absolutely.

Now we tend to focus on the 2X. The only time I would tell somebody to start with this is if you have a scar you're trying to work on or, you know, a specific deep line or something really, really intense. And I would tell you to use just the tiniest little bit and spot-treat with it, because it can be itchy. It can be tingly. It can be irritating. So I tell people to put this on right before you go to bed, like, wash your face, and go to bed about 15, 20 minutes later. I might start tingling. Hopefully you're asleep.

Yeah. You'll feel it a little bit. Not everybody feels it, but it's not like you're having an allergic reaction or something. 

It’s just irritating.

Yeah. You'll just feel it. And then if you are using it, let's say you have a scar, you're using it on your spot treating, and you're like, “I'm going to use this every single night.” Well, all of a sudden you're like, “wait a minute. My scar looks angry. It's red. It's puffy.”

Yep. I usually say three to four times a week, like every other day, don't push it. Whenever you push it and try to put it on every day, you're gonna get red and irritated. And then you're gonna have to cut back.

Yeah.

And that, which is fine. Okay. Stop use for 2, 3, or 4 days. Then it's better. Start up again. So you can stop, start, stop, start, or every other day, whatever you want. And then you don't have to use this, right? You can go down a level, which I recommend for the serums. If people have maybe a whole bunch of pockmarks, like maybe you've got 50 little spots, and you don't want to dab, dab, dab, dab. Okay. Maybe you want to use a serum that penetrates, right? Yes. It's milder, but this one doesn't really cause that irritation. When you put it on, it feels like a nice liquid. You can mix it with some Emu oil or something. You just get it everywhere really easily. And you can do the same with this. You can mix that with a little Emu oil.

You put Emo oil on top to help push it deeper into the skin. Or if you're irritated, and I did learn this from Dr. Pickart. He said that sometimes, if you're irritated, he likes it when you put the Emu oil on first. It's a little barrier. Then put the copper on top. He says it slows down the absorption. So, like, we always use Emu oil because it's transdermal and a penetration enhancer, but it's a penetration enhancer for what's below it, right? You can use it to your advantage, you know, put it on first, if you want to slow down or reduce irritation, and put it on top, if you want to increase penetration and increase, you know, all the good stuff. So if you're starting with this, I would generally recommend, like, anti-aging and things like that, you're using Tretinoin, you're using Serum 15, Serum 30, I would say to start with second generation. Don't do GHK because it's not going to work into your regimen well.

These are stable. You could use it right alongside your Tretinoin, your Retin-A.

He fixed that with this one. These are not the least bit affected. You could put this on with Serum 30. It's not going to damage this. That was one of his key things. And he also made it where he had a little bit of issues with this penetrating and, you know, really getting into the skin, where he fixed that with the second generation. And I don't want to say first is not good. First is fine, and it's great. But this one has a bit more intensity. And I really love this stuff.

This is super. So if you're just looking for like some anti-aging, if you have some light scars you want to work on. I had someone ask me just recently if this was good for hyperpigmentation, and I did see something on the page about it. It's not a melanin inhibitor by any way, but it can definitely help to stimulate new tissue growth and all that kind of stuff. So it could be beneficial, you know, for new, better, healthier skin coming up. But I would still want to use it with something like a melanin inhibitor, like Fade Bright or something along those lines. I just had somebody ask me that the other day, so I wanted to mention that.

Really good for just overall skin tone, texture, and collagen stimulation. One thing is that the Super CP Serum contains a bit of salicylic acid.

It does, but the pH is so high that I don't think it's really going to cause any irritation because, like with salicylic, the pH needs to be really low, like 2 or 1 or something. And this is, I want to say it's like a 6 or something. So it's really not going to be aggravating.

But if you are dry…

If you have dry skin, start with the CP.

Do the CP Serum instead. Yeah, that's kind of like a good starter. If you have normal skin or normal-to-dry skin, use the CP Serum. If you're oily or acne-prone and you want help with that, start with the Super CP Serum. Then, if you're looking to work on scars or really intense lines, you could spot-treat with the Super Cop 2X. But anybody can work up to the 2X. I want to just state that. It's not like, “oh, I should never use that all over my face.”

You can use it over your face. A lot of people use it all over their face, but take your time. 

Yeah, very sparingly, best to mix it with a moisturizer. It's not like you're just going to put on this blue cream. Your face would be so itchy and irritated unless you've worked your way up to that. The best way, I feel, to apply the serums is to add two to three drops to your nighttime moisturizer, Regenerate, something along those lines.

Yeah, because there's really nothing moisturizing in these serums. They're a serum just for the sake of being a liquid serum. There's not like lots of moisturizer factors or anything in there. It's almost like, if you were to try to take three drops and spread them all over your face, you would have a hard time.

Yeah, yeah.

I think it's much easier to either add it with some oil or add it with some hyaluronic, add it with your Regenerate, you know, add a few drops to your serums. Then you can spread it all over your neck, face, eyes, and everything. And I think you get really good. That made me think of one other thing we had on the page, where I said you don't want to add more GHK to any of these finished GHK products.

Right, right.

But you can add GHK to the second generation if you want to.

Okay.

That is okay.

As long as you're not using acids and, you know, all of those things.

Right, as long as none of those things, because there's always somebody who wants to couple these things up. You can. He does not recommend adding any more to the eye. He feels like two percent is enough for your eyes.

Yes.

Three percent is enough for your face. That's really strong. But if you wanted to add the GHK to either of the second-generation products, add it to that bottle, add it in your hand, you can do that. I just wanted to mention that you can absolutely do so. I've had some people ask that, and I did a bit of deep diving, and he says you absolutely can. I think it might even be on the seven percent page, where we state that you can mix them.

Let's talk about the beautiful blue color. Okay, it starts with a beautiful blue color and has a slight fragrance. Because of what? Why do they, why do they add that little bit of fragrance? 

Yeah, copper doesn't necessarily smell super duper. Some people think it smells of irony. Some people think it smells, I don't know, they've got a lot of variations of what they think it smells like.

Yes.

So copper doesn't smell delicious.

No.

And so he adds a light fragrance to it. And I would say the fragrance will last a couple of months, maybe three, once the bottle's open. Like when it's brand new, when you open it, it smells fine.

Yeah.

But that fragrance definitely dissipates, and you start to smell what the copper smells like. It doesn't mean it's bad.

No.

It doesn't; there's nothing wrong with it.

No.

Another thing that will change is this gorgeous blue.

Yes.

Of which I love, and it can vary. Sometimes it's more turquoise. It does change blue. Sometimes we'll get it in different colors. Sometimes it's darker.

Yeah.

And it doesn't mean it's bad.

No.

Sometimes we get them from Dr. Pickart, and it's darker than this.

Sure. Yeah.

And it doesn't mean it's bad. Copper lasts about 5 years.

Absolutely.

Sitting there. It will darken naturally, and it can almost turn black.

Yeah. Like a swampy brown.

Dark green swampy.

Yes. Yeah. Like a swampy brown.

Yes. The super CP. Like I had some of that at home, and I spooged it out, and there it is. It's like brown in my hand. It's fine.

It's still active.

That means nothing. It means nothing that copper is active for like a good five years.

So let's recap that. The color will dissipate. The scent will dissipate, but the peptides are still active.

They're still active.

It's okay if it's green. It's okay if it's brown.

It's okay.

It's okay if it's black. It's okay if it smells fresh and fragrant like the scent or if it smells like copper.

Yes.

It's good. So if you find a bottle in your drawer and you see that little sticker that says it was made, let's say, four years ago, and you don't know, it's fine.

Yeah.

It's fine. Go ahead and use it up unless you really want a fresh bottle; then go ahead, but I would use it up on the body. I would use it up. Don't waste it, and that's why we only carry this one outside of the 2x because he does make this in a bigger size.

Right.

I'm fearful of people overusing it.

For sure.

So that's why we only sell the one else.

Talking about overuse, that is a perfect segue to my next question.

That is one more.

What happens when someone starts using it and is, like, loving what they're seeing? 

Yeah.

So they're like I'm gonna take this to work. I'm gonna apply this at lunch. Five times a day. I'm gonna apply it at home. They start applying it two to three times per day, possibly stacking coppers, and you know, applying too much. What can happen?

Yeah. So you know how copper works: it breaks down damaged tissues, whether it's scar tissue or faulty layers of, you know, collagen. It breaks down tissue, helps the body flush it out, and then stimulates the process of regenerating new tissue.

Yeah.

So normally that's like give and take, give and take, give and take. It's like a nice cycle. Break down, regenerate, break down, regenerate, break down, and you're fine.

Yeah.

Sometimes people get too aggressive with the breakdown, and they call that the copper uglies.

Yes.

Right? If you're doing too much.

That's right.

It's breaking down things too fast, and then you're just regenerating a little bit. Break down, break down, break down, regenerate a little bit. You know it's not good, and your skin looks a little loose. It looks a little…

Yeah.

You just need to stop using it. Stop using it for like a week or something. Let your skin catch up.

Yes.

And then when things start looking good again.

Absolutely.

Then you can start using it, but please use it as directed: just a couple of drops a day.

Yes.

That's it. One time per day.

Because you can overstimulate the collagen. And then, as you said, your skin needs that time to catch up. It has to keep, you have to allow that regeneration and growth time. People are always just hitting it, hitting it, hitting it, and not giving it a chance to come back up. Like you have to. Downtime is important.

It's a process.

Downtime is important even with copper peptides. So yeah, don't overuse it.

Don't overuse it, and you can you know get back to where you were. You just have to stop using it for a week or so. And then go back onto the recommended applications.

Exactly.

Absolutely. Well, I know it's a lot to take in. Luckily, with this video, you can pause it, rewind it, and go back and look at things.

And we're going to have a downloadable on this, right? On the potions, I believe, and on the copper peptides, so they can just click.

Absolutely.

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