We Ranked Every Skin Issue and How Long It Takes to See Results

So stay the course for six to eight months, take your photos, make your comparisons, and be diligent.

And then hopefully, even if your lines aren't gone, they're looking better.

There we go.

And you're not getting more moving forward because you're always preventing.

Yeah.

You know, you're preventing and stimulating more. And it's not even like six to nine months, you're done. I would like to see your before picture. I want to see like your nine-month picture. And then I want to see your picture next year.

Oh, yeah.

Because I guarantee you, as good as you look from day zero to, you know, that nine months, you did like nine months and went forward, you know, 18 months. I guarantee you it's the same thing again.

Absolutely.

You know, but I don't want to say, oh, it's going to take you a year and a half.

For sure.

I don't want to say that. You're going to see great changes.

It will continue to improve.

And they're going to keep getting better and better.

Okay. One of the most asked questions when somebody is working on scarring, pigmentation, many, yeah, trying to tighten, you know, elasticity, things like that. They all want to know how long it will take.

Right now.

Yeah,

we want it now.

Yeah, we want it now. We are an instant gratification society. We want to see it now. However, sometimes their expectations are out of line with reality.

Right.

So in this little podcast, we are going to discuss the actual time frames they can use to give them an idea, so they can map out a nice game plan for themselves and not unmotivate themselves after one peel. You know, there's nothing that's going to be one and done.

Right. And there's nothing that's going to demotivate you more than expecting all these results after one peel.

Yeah.

And you're like, well, I don't see anything.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, that's perfectly normal.

So, you know, we want to kind of break down each topic and then kind of give them a good time frame where they can, like, see, OK, if I'm going to start working on this scar now and it's September, you know, what am I going to look like? Is it going to be January, June, whenever? OK, so let's go through each topic. Let's first start with acne.

It's easy because there are pretty much set guidelines.

If somebody is having active acne.

Yeah, active acne. And then we want to get you on a regimen right now to clear your pores and all that. We have, like, Jen's acne regimen, and stuff, which is a perfect way to get started. But, you know, acne is a cycle. It's not just the acne that's on your face right now.

Yes

You have layers and layers, layers and layers and layers. There's like 20-some layers of just, like, the stratum corneum, our outermost dead layers of skin. The ones we see have layers filled with clogs waiting to reach the surface. And the time frame is about five weeks that it takes for your skin to completely turn over and for all of those to reach the surface and come out. So, you know, five to six weeks is a pretty good estimate of how long it's going to take to clear what's on your face now. And I know some people really freak out about that because they're like, maybe they start to do something. They start to use some acids. They start to use some retinoids. And all of a sudden it gets worse. And they're like, oh, my gosh, why, why? And that's just because we're taking off more layers at a time. And that pimple that was supposed to be next week. And these two that were supposed to be the week after. And this one that was supposed to be this week, with we removed that. Now, all four of those reach the surface at the same time. So it's not like what we're doing caused more acne. We're just getting it up, like same with that up and out, up and out. So you must keep with it.

It's a good thing if your skin is in good shape, because you're getting it all done at once. So the goal is to stay on that regimen for at least 5 weeks.

Yes. And you can speed it up a smidge, you know, if you throw in a peel, because obviously a peel is going to take off more layers of skin. And it doesn't have to be a super strong peel. It doesn't have to be Jessner. Maybe it's a salicylic 15, mandelic 40 or 22, or something like that.

Yeah.

And that will help to get it up and out faster. But I say, you know, five weeks to really get the bottom ones out. Then you still might have little marks and things like that. And if you're on a retinoid, that should help those to clear quickly. But five to seven weeks, I think would, you know, so just under two months to really clear. I think that's a fairly reasonable time for acne clearing.

Now, if they are not seeing results, say after two months, then is it time to maybe see a dermatologist?

It might be. It depends on what those pimples are. Like if it's those baby pimples, if it's like blackheads and whiteheads, those are really easy. If you're talking about like pustules, like cystic acne, then yes, it is always time to see a dermatologist if you have cystic acne.

Okay. So acne, stick to it at least two months?

Yes.

Okay. Sounds good. Now, how about acne scarring? Let's say they clear the acne and now we're left with some scars.

So, decide if it's a scar or just a P-I-H mark, right? Number one. So if it's just a dark area, if you have, like, Fitzpatrick type 4 through 6, you might have a brown spot. If you're Fitzpatrick type 1 through 3, it's probably a pink spot.

Yes.

And those, if you're using a retinoid daily, that really does speed up the healing of those. Maybe it's like one or two weeks, whereas if you weren't using a retinoid, I mean, you could be looking at five, six, seven weeks before that goes away. So if you're on your regimen that's cleared you thus far, that's going to take care of those marks fairly quickly. Real scars, like, you know, if you've got a couple of ice pick scars and things like that, you need to move on to different treatments like TCA peels or the TCA cross. Still, you can only do a TCA cross once every five weeks, right? So you have to look at your limitations. Once every five weeks, and you're probably, depending on the depth of that scar, you might have to do that three times, five times. So you could just go by that's how many months.

Sure.

You know, cause you can only do it, you know, about five weeks. We'll just estimate that as like a month or so. You know, you're looking at, you could be like, you know, five, six months.

Right.

Before you start to see those real, real changes.

Yeah.

But, you know, if you're taking your photos, you will see that they're changing. It's changing consistently. I know because I had ice pick scars, and they used to look like deep, dark black holes. Like you, like you look in the mirror and you're like, I can't even see the bottom of this. And then, after a while, you do the cross; you do TCA peels. It doesn't have to be the cross; using things like copper. All of a sudden you look, and you're like, you can see the bottom. And it's alarming because you're like, "Is there something in there?" Is that a piece of skin? I remember trying to like pick it out, but it was my skin just growing up, and it just you got your hole, and it just keeps growing up, growing up, growing up until it's finally flush. And that's when, like, you know, your scars are finally gone.

Wow. That's cool.

So that's kind of how, like, the ice pick ones work.

So acne scars can definitely take longer to fade.

Yeah. Like six months.

You gotta be diligent and be consistent. And it's good to do the peels consecutively as part of a peel series.

Stay, stay on task. Like, I would have, like, five weeks set on my calendar, and I would do my cross. And then I would do my full face peel right after that. Like, I'd probably do the cross, and then I want to treat my whole face.

Yes.

You know, so do that every five weeks. And then by the time, you know, you're at like five, six months, you're going to be looking at just an amazing transformation.

Okay. Pigmentation.

Pigmentation. Right. Pigmentation is tough.

Yeah.

Cause just like pimples and things like that.

Yeah.

Deep in the skin. You know, we, we're not just looking at last Tuesday's sunburn damage, right? If we are, that comes off fairly quickly.

Right.

Any kind of surface things come off fast. So that's like where you get people like, "Well, I used to fade right for two weeks, and my marks are gone."

Those were very…

Superficial.

Superficial marks. They have not been around a long time because when they have been around a long time, and you're a sun worshiper back in the day, right. We've had a bunch of severe burns, all that kind of stuff. I mean, you could be looking at six months.

Yeah. Maybe longer.

Right.

Cause you want to do a peel series.

Yep.

You want to use your melanin inhibitors, retinoids, and acids to try to turn that over more quickly.

And your sunscreen.

I was gonna say, and SPF 50 and avoiding the sun, like wear a big hat, shade your face. The only time that, you know, really that's going to take longer is if you have melasma, cause that's a little bit of a different battle.

Yes.

Right. Cause melasma is not just sun damage. It can also be induced by heat.

Right.

It can be induced by, you know, your hormones, cause, you know, the shift in the melanin in your skin. And that's just like a constant battle.

Right.

So I would never tell somebody who has melasma that everything's going to be all fine and dandy in six months or nine months, because it's not; it's going to be there forever. And you're just going to keep fighting it.

Yeah.

And you're going to fight it in the ways that we've discussed, just like treating normal pigmentation is how you treat melasma. Still, you also have to be careful, you know, get your hormones checked because sometimes that could be, you know, if you're entering menopause or something like that, when they're like dipping and going up, that could make things worse. Watch your heat. I know, you know, unless you live in a super, super hot area, what's the temperature? 104 degrees, I believe, is when, like, the melasma can trigger the melanin production. And I know a lot of times people are asking, well, does that mean it's, I can't use LED masks and things like that?

Oh yeah.

But no, that does not mean that. It means you have to be careful. It means you have to do shorter times. You want to make sure it's not hot because we learned that 104 degrees is hot. Then I guarantee you, you know, like our mask, if that's on your face, you feel warmth, but it's not 104 degrees.

Right. Right.

Right. And if you're concerned about trapping heat and stuff, you know, put it on like, like you like to do the same thing, lay in bed. Like I don't even like latch it behind me. I just lay there, to set on my face. My eyes are closed. You can totally feel the air going through. It's not hot.

No, it's not.

So do that. If you have melasma, do that. Use lower settings, use it for shorter times, maybe 10 minutes instead of 30 minutes, because, you know, you don't want to trigger things like that.

So this pigmentation is definitely a longer battle, an ongoing battle, but you can't; we have seen some remarkable before and after photos if you are diligent with your peels.

Some of those are even a couple of years apart. Like, I will never forget the one, and she had freckles all over her face. And I think it's on the website. And I believe, I think she's on the transformation page. Suppose I want to say she's like one of the front ones on the transformation page. And she wasn't even, you know, thinking about it while using the products. Let me see. Um, not her. No.

Her? No. No.

I mean, that one's pretty good, though.

Yeah, there's, there's a lot of them for a second.

There are a lot of them, but...

Wow.

They're just using their normal regiments.

That's awesome.

And then all of a sudden.

Like five or six. Look,

she has one on the side.

Yeah, just like me. Yep. Mine's just a little higher.

She got rid of hers.

Yeah, but like, they're not.

I think it might have been this one. She was like.

She did it too. And she had a lot of accusations.

It was so silly. Yeah.

She looks so fresh there. Yeah, that's nice.

Yeah. I still haven't seen her, but that's okay. It was her too. There are just so many. And a lot of times the people.

That's a great one.

They're showing us this. And it's not even something that they would have taken a photo of on their own, right? Like her, it was like one of the Facebook memories. And she just looked at it and was like, oh my gosh, you know, I had no clue. My skin looks like that. But she wasn't even trying. She was just using, you know, the kind of products that we're saying, you know, retinoids and melanin inhibitors and acids and doing peels and stuff. And that's going to help to remove that. But, you know, I mean, sometimes it could be, you know, six months plus.

Yeah, absolutely.

Or forever, you know, if you're dealing with melasma.

Yeah, yeah.

That's just constant. And what I do tell people, like if you do have really, really bad melasma or P.I.H., which is, you know, obviously when you get that hyperpigmentation, but it's from something specific, like too strong of an acid or a wound of some sort. And you're left with these dark blotches. I will tell them to sometimes go see their doctor if they've been doing everything we're telling them and they're not getting enough, because their doctor can write you a prescription for, like, oral tranexamic acid, which they can take. And that can work really, really well on super problematic melasma.

Sure.

And P.I.H. and things like that, that your topical stuff just isn't touching enough.

Yeah.

Or they might need to get a prescription. You know, like hydroquinone, we can't do. I remember when we did hydroquinone over the counter because we had a hydroquinone cream. I think it had 2% or 4% or something in it. But now that's prescription.

Right.

But they do go very high, like up to, I think, 12%.

I was going to say 12.

I think it's 12%. Yeah, 6 and 12%. And they might require something like that.

For sure.

Yeah. Because I don't want to just keep suffering, just keep trying. No, you have other options. And this isn't working by, you know, five, six months. Or maybe it helped with a lot of it, but not all of it. Then go talk to your doctor and see what else you can do.

And that prescription is going to help from the inside out, and the products are going to help from the outside in.

Yeah. That's why I recommend that one a lot.

It's like a dynamic duo.

Yeah. And a lot of times people don't even know it's an option. And I only found out about that option listening to other people's stories.

For sure.

And then I was like, wow, I didn't know about that. And then it kind of started searching for that, like the oral training exam. It's not the same as, you know, putting it on topical. Yeah, it's always helpful, but it's different when it's oral. Kind of like vitamin A is different orally.

Got it.

And it really can change their story. So yeah, that's a good one.

Very cool.

And I think a lot of people too, and this is just from my observation, is for women and men who are dealing with sun damage if you keep going in the sun.

Yeah, forget it. It's going to keep coming back.

A hundred percent.

You have to change your lifestyle. Have to.

You do.

You do. You have to make a point because this is how fast. Okay. I have not been in the sun, and I'll spend any time in the sun. Okay. So we went out on the boat this past weekend, Sunday. We just rode. I don't think I was in the sun for 20 minutes. I didn't even have my swimsuit on yet. My daughter and I were sitting on the front of the boat, just from pulling out to getting to where we're going to park. And I was going to go put on my sunblock and my swimsuit. And by the time that ride was over, I was sunburned.

Oh no.

Still, I got sunburned, a little bit on my arms. I had some on my neck. I was like, great. And luckily I had, I put my sunblock on my face and neck because I do that anyways, but I still got a little bit on the side, probably where I didn't get. And that was 20 minutes. 20 minutes. So it's like, you think I would know better.

I know.

But I clearly did not know any better. I just didn't think anything would happen in 20 minutes.

And, you know, it still happens.

But that's how fast.

In the skincare business, sometimes.

We do dumb things.

Well, and you just weren't thinking. You were enjoying your day.

No, and I thought, oh yeah, we're just going to ride there. We're going to be fine. Then I'm going to go. I had the three cans of sun spray, you know, sunblock in there with my swimsuit and my big ass hat.

Yeah.

Don't… block that out.

My big hat. My big, big old hat. My big hat.

And yeah, it was too late.

Yeah.

Too late. I ruined it.

I know. I've taken a few calls from ladies who have worked diligently on getting their melasma down or whatever. And then they're in a situation where I didn't have my sunscreen. I had to go to my daughter's soccer game. And oh my God, like, what do I do now? You know? So it's like, it's probably pretty fresh. So often, if you try to hit it right away, you might get more action.

This is what I've been doing. And I bathe in this, but Cell Intel. Okay. I've been, because cell and tell is that, you know, if we can fix the damages immediately, like I think there's like a seven-day window, right?

Yeah.

Pretty sure it's like seven days. Exactly. If we can fix our damages before seven days, it doesn't like start that whole cascade effect causing all, you know, hyperpigmentation and all these kinds of things and skin cancer and all this horrible stuff. But so I have been like, when I got home, like I washed my face, I'm like…

Cell Intel.

Cell Intel, secret agent, emu oil, PDRN.

Oh my God, I love it.

I'm like, I just gobbed it all over my arms and a little bit on the front of my leg. And I was like, that was her. That was the one.

Oh, yes.

Carrie.

Yeah. Like, what a difference between those two pictures. And she wasn't even- she just saw, you know, before and after.

What a fresh face on the right-hand side.

I mean, she looks 10 years younger.

Absolutely.

And her skin is like pink and clear. And there it was like, you know, brown and discolored. And it was just like crazy, crazy differences.

Now, okay. We talked about pigmentation.

Yeah.

Now let's just take a brief moment to talk about hypopigmentation.

Yeah.

Because expectations for hypopigmentation, sometimes they feel that there is a fix. And unfortunately, there's not a whole lot you can do.

There's nothing proven that can fix hypopigmentation because, well, hypopigmentation, you know, you have your melanin in your skin, and that's what creates the color, whether you're really light or really dark. Still, the amount of melanin in your skin gives you your skin color. So when people get hypopigmentation, usually it can happen from, I think, some birth controls can cause you to, like, burn more and things like that. And, you know, too strong of an acid- somebody's using a 50 TCA or something- other kinds of damage and wounds can cause it where they actually destroy the melanocytes. So they can no longer create melanin. So then you get stuck with white spots.

Yes.

A lot of times, well, a lot of times we see that with like sun damage, you'll see like somebody's legs, they have tons of freckles and tons of white spots. And they're like, what can I do? And it's like, the best thing you can do is try to lighten all the dark sunspots and try to even that skin tone as much as you can. But really, there's absolutely nothing that I know of that's going to make your melanin start functioning again. There's, you know, I have some of my own theories and some of my own thoughts, and some things I suggest to people, like, you know, exosomes and growth factors, copper, anything that can try to re-regulate things, the DNA repair enzymes. I'm thinking, I'm like anything that we can do to possibly help. It might help; it might not because there's nothing. It's like they're dead. I don't know if we can reanimate them again.

I have some hypo marks on my arms, and you don't see them until summer when you do get a little bit of a tan, and then you're like, oh…

I see, I see them on my arms right now. I have some.

So I will, as you said, when I'm done with my secret agent or Cell Intel, anything left, I used to just put it on this part of my hands. Now I'm like, right now it's all over. The older I get, I'm like, oh my God, I need a bigger bottle.

I am working on a Cell Intel for the body. It's just, it's a hard thing to do because, like, you want it to be just as active as what's on the face, but you can't. Because otherwise it's going to be just as expensive as the face, but in a much bigger bottle. It's like, I don't want to do that. So there, you have to like lessen some things and make some adjustments. And that's just the phase we're in right now. But I've had a lot of requests for that so they could put it all over their body for the same reason.

I have faith in you, and I cannot wait until you have the testing bottles for Darren and me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's just, yeah.

But make that because…

I've had so many.

You know, areas of your body that get the most sun. If you could use that as your moisturizer.

Yes, like from your knees down, your arms, your chest, for sure. Because the areas that aren't in the sun, it's not like a requirement that you have the DNA repair enzymes on areas that aren't even having UV, right? Hit them. It's like, okay, they're protected: arms, legs, the part that's out in the light.

Yeah.

We need to protect that. Your hand.

Yes.

Yeah.

Or just get, like, spend thousands of dollars to get a vat of it and, like, just do a pool of it.

Yeah, like a cold plunge. We have a DNA repair plunge.

Yes.

Come on over for your DNA repair plunge.

We do a lot of research, you know.

Hey, that might be an idea.

And there are some of the studies that we've looked at, and it's just, it's.

It's amazing.

It's like some of the strongest science we've seen. Other than like retinoids. Exosomes are starting to get that kind of stuff, too.

Yep.

DNA repair enzymes have.

I know. When I talk to customers, I tell everyone to use these. And I explain to them that, you know, your body can only fix 50% of the damage, and this will supplement that and help fix the rest. It's, they always buy it because it's something you need.

It's a no-brainer. Didn't we add that into our daily? Like if you do the regimen builder.

If anyone's listening and wants to use it, it's all like the cell Intel is included in there, depending on your regimen. And then we're adding another question into it for anyone with damage barrier issues.

I think that's always done.

Awesome.

Yeah.

It is, is 100% of the work.

Yeah. Cause for the most part, you know, unless you're working on body scarring or things, you know, cause the regimen builder gives you a lot of different options. But for that, I was like, we need to add Cell Intel to the, everybody needs to be using this.

Agreed.

Everybody needs to be using this.

All right. Moving along. Next topic. Elasticity. If somebody has some saggy neck going on and some not real saggy, we're not talking plastic surgery.

There's a fine line, right? You know, plastic surgery is going to give you lots of scars and things like that. There's a point where, like, a good plastic surgeon will turn you away if, if you're minimal enough, they're like, do you really want to trade that in for, you know, a big, long scar?

Yeah.

You know, it's like, ah, you gotta be careful with that. But you know, and I would say like the best things to do for that, obviously like needling, peels, retinoids, exosomes, things like that, like all of those to help stimulate new collagen and elastin in the skin. But still, still that takes time. I mean, I'm like 90 days minimum.

Yes.

But like if you, you know, want like substantial changes, I mean, I think you should be doing like the heavier hitting things like that, like needling or peels. I mean, you're doing something heavy hitting for, I mean, at least six to nine months, at least.

And I feel like…

To really see the changes.

Tightening. You really need to be using our Dr. Platinum potions.

There are a lot of different ones, like the Progelene Skin Nectura.

I was going to say, which one is the other one? Yeah, Skin Nectura.

Those are the big ones. And most of the time, when they're talking about elasticity loss, it's mostly the lower face and neck. Sometimes, you know, around the eye area, it's gravity.

I mean, yeah.

And then you have to come to a point where, okay, sometimes, if it's actually excess skin, it has to be removed. And then you make that choice when you have to. But you can tighten the skin, you know, by stimulating that collagen, elastin, and those factors in your body. You certainly can make a huge difference. It may not be enough because if there's too much skin, yeah, it has to come off. And that's your choice. But, you know, most doctors know when you've reached that point, and they'll tell you like, yeah, it's time, or no, wait a few more years, you know, and then you just got to listen.

What are we thinking about: six months of using Dr. Platinum potions morning and night, maybe some creepy skin escape.

That's good.

Series of peels.

Series of peels and/or needling.

Yeah.

I mean, I feel like you must be doing one of those two things because they're, you're really heavy hitters.

Yep.

So yeah, definitely do that. And it's still, yeah, it's not going to take six to nine months to take those photos. See amazing changes like the changes we're seeing on the transformation pages and stuff like that. I mean, though, sometimes there's years in between those. Sometimes it's just months. But those are major changes, and it takes time. I just want to caveat that, because that doesn't mean you won't see changes earlier;e I guarantee you'll probably be seeing something at 90 days with all of these things. You'll see something. I always tell people like 90 days minimum. But if you really want like those big changes, double that, you know, then you can; whatever great strides have happened are going to happen again. And then just kind of continues.

I did want to point this out before we move on to like wrinkles and stuff.

Yeah.

Using Cell Intel, this KM, and this was from May, like you can see in the left or the big photo that what she called her chocolate milk mustache from Melasma is basically gone. So, you know, it's not like a magic product. And if you read the negative reviews or the three-star ones, it's like they use it once. Well, you've got to give this product time.

Well, hello.

Oh, yeah. Or they just expected miraculous. Like I always have to comment on, you know, if we get negative reviews on the website, of course, we always post them. Like, I don't think I don't post them, but I do comment on them. I'm always alerted if it's anything like three stars or under.

Yeah.

So I can address it and, you know, help them if need be. But a lot of times, you know, let's say I'll get it with Fade Bright, and I know Fade Bright works great and I know everything is in there that's going to really help. But they're like, oh, you know, it just didn't just didn't work. And it's like they don't tell me anything about their skin. I don't know if you have melasma. So I have to be like, well, I don't know if you have do you have melasma? If you have melasma, you know, this is going to be like a lifelong battle, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And if it's hyperpigmentation, I go, really, really depends on whether you're working with surface hyperpigmentation or deeper hyperpigmentation. You might need to combine this. You might need to do a Jessner peel. You might need to do this. But it's like you still need this product. This product is doing something very specific. It is lightening, you know, those upper ones. But it is also reducing melanin production. So you're going to be less likely to get more moving forward. And it's helping along your journey as part of it. It's not the 100 percent solution. I think no product is the 100 percent solution.

Right. The big one, wrinkles.

Wrinkles.

Everyone wants to rid their wrinkles. You know, what can I get to erase my wrinkles?

Yeah.

Well, let's be realistic. There's no magic eraser. Because if there was, we would just we would be…

It would probably be patented. And we'd all be paying $10,000 for a single.

Yeah

There's no wrinkle of it. There's no wrinkle eraser out there. However, what are the, you know, I guess we're not going to go through every product, but…

No.

What are the expectations of somebody who is, you know, let's just say somebody like is our age, and they're in their 50s, and they have not been diligent about their skin care, and all of a sudden, you know, life has caught up with them, and they're like, OK, now the kids are gone.

You know, I hear that all the time. I've been taking care of my mom for the past six months, a year, whatever. And I've ignored myself and blah, blah, blah. And your skin looks terrible. And I think, in all honesty, the worse it looks, that's the quicker that you're going to see the changes.

I like that. I like that thought.

It's true, though, right? Like everything looks dry, really intense, and deep. And if all of a sudden you just, you know, start using, like, a prep regimen. You know, you're using your retinoids and some acids. That's going to start smoothing things out, making them look a little better.

Yeah.

And then you've prepped, and you're going to do like a TCA peel. I mean, do a TCA 7 or start with needling, like that. If you've got those deep, deep lines, that's going to help.

Right. Dehydration makes you look 10 times older. If your skin is dehydrated. Well, we just talked about that in another video, where, you know, you need to use things that keep your skin moist and replenished. And I think the key takeaways from that were obviously applying it to damp skin, things that have hyaluronic acid, like nano hyaluronic or regenerate. And like the PDRN recovery veil, you were mentioning that one makes you really, really moist and hydrated. So things like that help instantly. But, you know, long, long term, obviously, you know, do the heavy hitters, do TCA peels, do Dream Peel, do needling. And I think you're going to start with everything, you know, 90 days or so. You're going to see changes.

Yeah.

And the deeper, more ingrained your lines are, the quicker you're going to see that because just anything is going to start making that look better.

Yeah.

That collagen. But, you know, when your collagen, when you do like a TCA peel, is it nine months? I swear it's nine months. Like you do one peel for like up to nine months. Your skin is now regenerating and stimulating more collagen with a single peel for 9 months. So, OK, so if you start adding in another peel and another peel and another peel, that's just compounding. And now you're just stimulating all that growth in your skin. So you're going to see big changes.

So you'll see those changes down the line. Even if they're technically only doing, let's say, a six-month peel series, their skin will still improve after that series because of collagen stimulation.

It's going to keep improving for another 9 months, and their skin's going to keep looking better and better. And I think that's, you know, that's important. And now if you have really fine lines, though, again, where like you've got these deeper lines, it really shows quickly. If you've got tiny, fine baby lines, like I feel like those are the most difficult to treat. And it's not that they can't be helped, but a lot of times it's like those are natural lines. Like, you know, everybody like, I don't want a single line on my face. I don't want a single crow's feet. It's like, well, yeah, but you're squinting, and you're blinking, and you're moving your face. So those are natural lines. They're called dynamic lines because your skin moves. And if they're not just sitting there ingrained, like if you're sitting there and you don't have lines all over, then they're just dynamic lines. They're there only when you're moving. But, you know, it's when they're ingrained in there, even when you're not moving, those are those deeper ones that fade more quickly. But these tiny little fine ones and the people are like, "I'm 27, and it's like you're just a baby." Those are nothing. Go ahead and use your retinoid and, you know, do a TCA eye peel or something like that. And it will look better, you know, over a course of, you know, six to eight peels. So I like to say, you know, six to eight months.

So six to eight months if they are on a diligent regimen using, you know, their vitamin C, their retinol, all the things, and mix in some peels and microneedling; maybe our SolEos mask is definitely good for anti-aging. It is good for tightening as well. Overall skin tone texture.

Yeah. And then it's got the lasers in there, right? For like under your chin, in the front of your neck and all that kind of stuff. LED goes everywhere. Lasers are really focused on certain areas. But yeah, all of those work great.

And this is when taking photos really comes in handy, because it'll keep you motivated, and you'll start to see subtle improvements in your skin's texture and brightness first. And then, yeah, then it will start minimizing some of those fine lines and wrinkles. But, you know, certain, you know, a skincare product can only do so much. Let's be realistic. So yeah, we have to have realistic expectations. So if somebody phones and they're, you know, 79 years old and they want to…

We get a lot of that.

Exactly. And there are some things that, you know, can help, you know, brighten the skin, smooth the skin, help with pigmentation. But, you know, we are aging gracefully, and there's only so much skincare products can do. So we don't want to give them, you know, expectations.

False hopes.

False hopes. That's the worst.

Yeah. But, you know, even you could have a complete surgical procedure and still not get rid of all your wrinkles because a lot of times, I mean, yeah, they move your muscles back into place where they're supposed to be and then they can, you know, cut off any extra skin. But your skin is still your skin.

Yeah.

You know, so it's like, you know, if you are getting, you know, facial surgery and things like that, like it's not skincare, peels, needling, or that.

Yeah.

It's and that. Like you need it all. Like, you can get the greatest facelift in the world, and your doctor is either going to love you because you've been doing peels and needling, and you come in with your skin in beautiful condition. You're going to heal faster, and everything's going to look wonderful. Your scars will be super minimal. But if you're not doing any of that, you know, your facelift is only as good as it can be. Like, you're not going to be their prize customer. If your skin looks terrible, they'll often throw on things like peels and CO2 treatments because they're trying to help your skin, even though you've done nothing with it.

Yeah, for sure.

But yeah, it's all important.

Yeah. So stay the course for six to eight months. Take your photos, do your comparisons, be diligent.

And then, hopefully, even if your lines aren't gone, they're looking better.

There we go.

And you're not getting more moving forward because you're always preventing.

Yeah.

You know, you're preventing and stimulating more. And it's not even like six to nine months, you're done. I would like to see your before picture. I want to see like your nine-month picture. And then I want to see your picture next year.

Oh, yeah.

Because I guarantee you, as good as you look from day zero to, you know, that nine months, you did like nine months and went forward, you know, 18 months. I guarantee you it's the same thing again.

Absolutely.

You know, but I don't want to say, oh, it's going to take you a year and a half.

For sure.

I don't want to say that you're going to see great changes.

It will continue to improve.

And they're going to keep getting better and better.

Yeah, perfect. Excellent.

Yeah, that's why the final point I'd make is from a guy's perspective for women that want to look better for all the women that I've seen, and I've seen hundreds of before and afters and so many things. I just feel like women who've gone through it have a confidence to them that you can just tell they're happier with their skin. But it's not just that their wrinkles are all gone. It's just that they have a slightly brighter tone.

Yeah

A little more subtle wrinkle or whatever. And, you know, they just look better.

Yeah.

So you'll be happy with your skin if you commit to something like that.

You know, I was literally today like I like to watch videos when I'm getting ready. I was literally watching an interview with Dr. Terry Dubrow. He was like the doctor from Botched.

Oh, yeah, I know that.

And he was saying that, too. He goes, like, people come in, and they want, you know, their face, like, all Botoxed out so they can't move. And he's like, they think that looks good. And he's like, that does not look good. He's like, it doesn't look real now. He's like, you don't look like a real person. Like the look you get when you're completely frozen everywhere is that you're older and you're trying to hide it. He's like, that's how you look. You look older, and you're trying to hide it. You don't look like it's OK to get it. But like, you know what I mean? Like people, they want it like everything done. They almost like don't want to be able to move. It's like that doesn't look human. No, it looks a little like when I see that people talk about that, like glass skin. And I see that it looks like I'm like number one. I just see like grease. But that probably is because I had acne and stuff as, you know, a kid. And I don't want when I see that, I think oily.

Yeah

I know that's not the look that that is, but it's just you see. And there's like not a line.

Right.

There's nothing on their face. And it's like it almost looks like a mannequin or something. It doesn't look like a human being to me. And like, that's never been a goal of mine. I've always just wanted to look good, look as good as I possibly can. I don't need to look like a mannequin.

No, we're aging gracefully. That's what I think you can do.

That's all you can do. What's the other choice? Die. You know, that's your other choice. You want to stay young forever. That's all you can do. You want to move forward and enjoy your life. Then you need to age.

I want you. And that's the thing. Like you have to realize, you know, you want to look your personal best. And every person has their own personal best. Yeah. So just, you know, stick with it. As Darren said, you'll feel better if you're on a good regimen. And you know, when you feel good inside, it radiates on the outside.

It does.

It really does. Yeah. Well, any other questions that you may have? We're super happy to help you. You can email us at support@platinumskincare.com.

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